i have a honda civic b16 a when it comes on to v-tech there is no sudden pull or push of power i have been in other civics and when they come onto v-tech they take off could someone maybe explain why this is and tell me how to fix my problem

 

What is VTEC?


First off, let's talk about what VTEC is NOT.

VTEC is NOT "V-tec", "V-TEC", "V-tech", "V-TECH", "VTECH", "V-TEK", "vtech", "vtec", "vortech", "Vtec", or "Vtech". It's CAPITAL VTEC. No dashes, no lower case, no extra letters, no anything other than the correct and only spelling of VTEC. If you cannot respect the technology and simply use the correct spelling, you do not deserve what it gives you.

A 2 year old could spell it - it's just basic ABCs. Capital V Capital T Capital E and Capital C. That's it. This misspelling is something that is becoming more and more prevalent as Honda trickles this technology to all models and more people buy cars utilizing VTEC technology. It's my number one biggest pet-peeve. I am now seeing it in magazines articles, personal Web sites, across people's windshields, on Message Boards, company Web sites, and even PRODUCT ADVERTISEMENTS by companies who MAKE products for the VTEC! Heck, I've even seen it on the side of a professional import racer's car - someone who has been doing this for a long time and runs in the 10's. They get a lot of press and magazines print a lot of pictures. It surprises me that no one has told this person that the side of their car says "1.8L V-TEC". Uh, HELLO?!?!?!?!?!? And millions of people read these magazines that have the pictures of this car, and suddenly think Honda has some sort of new technology. Anyways, enough with the soapbox talk, let's get on with it. Just remember, it's spelled VTEC and only VTEC.

So what IS VTEC? VTEC is Honda's trademarked acronym for Variable valve Timing and Electronic lift Control. Put simply, it's a method of directly altering the cam profile that valves "see", so that the optimum grind can be utilized at either high or low rpm.Honda currently has three different VTEC systems for sale in the U.S., but the primary differences are level of complexity and design purpose. Since the high performance version is the most often discussed, I'll describe it: The high performance VTEC system, which made it's debut in the Honda NSX, later became available on various other models - Integra, Prelude, delSol, Civic, Accord, etc.

Using radical cam grinds to improve engine horsepower is certainly nothing new, but the problem lies in driveability. The very aspects of a cam grind that work so well for horsepower (high lift, long overlap,etc.) do so by creating an ideal situation for a high air flow at high engine speeds. Unfortunately, what works well for that situation has the inverse affect on low speed torque and driveability. Perhaps at one time or another we've all heard the V-8 hot rod that has a cam grind so radical that it can't even maintain an idle, and the driver must constantly goose the accelerator to keep the engine running. What to do? How about two different cam grinds, each optimized for a different half of the rpm range. Honda achieves this with a rather simple method. Picture, if you will, one cylinder of a DOHC, 4-valve per cylinder engine. There are 4 cam lobes, each directly operating a valve (two intake, two exhaust). The VTEC system has two more cam lobes, in between each pair of the other respective sets. These two can then be our high-rpm lobes, while the other four are the low-rpm lobes. The low-rpm lobes in this case then actuate the valves through a set of rocker arms, so that the mechanical connection can be broken if desired. The third, high-rpm lobe also has it's own follower, but it is in a freewheeling state,flopping around and not contributing anything. As our engine accelerates through it's rev range, it passes through the power peak of the low-rpm lobes. Then, at the engine speed and throttle position programmed into the computer's memory map a signal is sent which electronically opens a spool valve, which then directs oil pressure to a mechanical sliding pin. This pin locks the rocker arms actuating the valves to the follower on the high-rpm cam lobe. As this grind is steeper and higher then the other four cams it will supersede them. In a few milliseconds you have completely altered the valve timing and the engine's power band begins anew.The obvious benefits to this are the high-rpm power associated with a radical cam grind, but with little or no negative affects on low speed idle, driveability or torque. Just changing a fixed timing engine to a cam grind equal to the high-rpm one used in the VTEC would produce an engine which is utterly gutless below 5000rpm. Clearly, this system is intended to improve performance first, with little effect elsewhere. But such a system can be used differently, as that in the Civic VX. In this instance, the low-rpm lobes give a staggered timing, where one valve opens fully but the second cracks just a bit. This is to induce a high swirl rate into the chamber to promote better combustion, which, when combined with a computer-actuated lean burn helps to achieve high mileage. The high-rpm lobes in this engine are a more conventional grind associated with a sixteen valve 4-cylinder, to provide extra power in cases of passing or merging. The VTEC system used in most Civics (EX, Si and the delSol Si but NOT delSol VTEC)is a little closer to that in the NSX, etc. The difference being that this system is vastly simplified and operates on the intake valves ONLY. The exhaust are actuated conventionallywhich reduces effect somewhat from full VTEC system. This is partly to reduce costsand because engine a SOHC complex system of rocker arms actuate sixteen prohibitive on Accord close in design to that on the Civics as well, optimized more for a smooth power delivery then high horsepower.The negative effects? Very few, really. Obviously it's very expensive, with many complex parts involved. The biggest drawback is the limitation to only two "modes" of valve timing. Most engineers are still seeking ways to obtain unlimited variance of the valve timing, so that it can be optimized to any engine speed, not just high or low rpm. BMW's system approaches this method with a completely different method of varying the valve timing. It is almost infinitely adjustable *within it's range*, but alas it has a much smaller envelope between the two extremes of it's variability than is possible with the Honda system.

The Honda VTEC variable valve timing system explained in the 1991 CRX

Fig. 1
The 1.6 liter DOHC engine with VTEC used in the 1991 CRX.
The VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and lift Electronic Control) system is explained here by example of the 1.6 liter DOHC engine used in the CRX, which was in 1991 the first car equipped with such an engine. It has four valves/cylinder and two overhead camshafts.


Fig. 2
The outside cams operate on the valves by outside rockers.
Fig. 3
The three rockers are interconnected by the two hydraulically operated pins A and B.
The cam in the middle operates on the valves by the interconnected rockers.


For every cylinder there are three cams on the camshaft and three rockers instead of the usual two. At low to middle revs the outside in- and output cams are used. They have their own rockers which operate on accompanying valves. These cams are designed for moderate lift and timing. (Fig. 2).
At high revs the middle cam is used. It has a high lift and different timing. This cam operates on the middle rocker. The indirect selection of the two different type of cams is done hydraulically by shifting a pin, consisting of two parts A and B, in the rockers by which the middle rocker takes along the two outside ones, which as a result, also receive the fast middle cam profile. The valves are opened wide and for a longer period for more power. (Fig.3).

The two cam types have their own power distribution curve. At one point in both curves the engine delivers the same power. At this point the motor management switches from one state to the other. As a result the transition occurs smooth and without notice, except for some more push of course ...

 

damn if h-t took points away for being a dick, you would be at zero teach do not scoled, young grasshopper........ is honda paying you to suck their dick........ just wondering?

 

That's just a cut & paste, not trying to be an ***. That's just free literature! If I wanted to be a dick, I would tell you that you spelled "scoled" wrong..... You spelled scold wrong.


Modified by delslo26 at 11:39 AM 6/30/2003

 

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Don't be dumb.

 

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