Okay I have a b20vtec all motor set up and its tune on a s200 hondata. I deicded to go boost and build an lsvtec with a sc61 turbo custom kit. I will be purchasing some 720cc injectors with a walbro 255lph intake pump. I was wonder if i get the boost opition for my hondata and a place taht tune hondata to burn me a base program like and ITR program with boost. Will that mean i wont be needing the FMU no more and i can boost with just the base program ?

thanx for the help guys

 

i wouldnt boost on the base map , but with hondata you dont need the FMU

 

I wouldn't go boosting much with a base map. With a tuned hondata you won't need the FMU as hondata takes care of that.

 

no fmu correct

 

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No FMU, no missing link, no vtec controller.

 

Is that mean that I could get rid of the VAFC and AVCR as well???

 

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The hondata does everything the VAFC does, and more. AVC-R you MIGHT want to keep, as hondata does not support gear dependant boost control as of yet, but I think you can control it based on speed, as long as you have the boost control solenoid.

 

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how much can i boost with just a base program for boost ? atleast 8psi ? until i get it tune ? will i be running in the lean side or I should be fun with the 720cc injecotrs ?

thanx for the help fellas

 

I heard that Gruvytune and a few other people on this board have better basemaps than the hondata ones. Talk to them first.

But regardless, your still gonna need to get your car tuned for maximum output and safety.

 

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But regardless, your still gonna need to get your car tuned for maximum output and safety.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Of crouse I know that i have to get my car tune. It just for right now until i can get enough money to get my car tune with the new turbo set up. So how much lbs you guys think i can boost with the base boost program ?

 

The whole point of an FMU is to allw you to run boost without buying larger injectors. With 720's, there is no reason for an FMU.

 

I'd toss the fmu and get a quality fpr. toss the afc ... keep the avc-r.. lay off boost and get tuned.

 

Let's bring this up once more, Ok, now that I got hondata, AVCR and bigger injectors, do I still need a high pressure fuel pump?? If so, which one would you guys recommend??

thanks for all the help.

 

High fuel preasure helps if you want ot make alot of power. Its better to run a high fuel preasure so that you can run a lower Fuel preasure. I think on hondata site , they talk and explain very good in detal why to have a low fuel preasure when it comes to boosting. I would suggest a Walbro 255lph fuel pump

 

no boost at all on basemap...i mean NONE!!!!!

 

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isn't the whole point of larger injectors is so that you get more fuel with less pressure?
my inline fuel pump and FMU have me scared s#!itless! the poor stock injectors are getting killed under all the pressure.
i didn't think you needed a fuel pump when using larger injectors......?
just a question. maybe i have the wrong idea.

 

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umm what so bad on boosting with basemap ?

 

 

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isn't the whole point of larger injectors is so that you get more fuel with less pressure?
my inline fuel pump and FMU have me scared s#!itless! the poor stock injectors are getting killed under all the pressure.
i didn't think you needed a fuel pump when using larger injectors......?
just a question. maybe i have the wrong idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>

mmm bigger pump.. bigger injectors = more fuel into the engine just think if the injecters are so big and little pressure imagine not getting enough fuel to them and BOOM your lean and rebuilding your engine

 

I still need to know is it fine to boost with just a base boost program ? No more then 8lbs of boost. People say its bad then people say dont boost high ? Need more info thanx!

 

DO NOT boost on a basemap. If your that impatient and cant resist boosting right before you get tuned, maybe you should not have a turbo. Please just wait till you get to the dyno. I dont want to hear anymroe stories of blown motors

 

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even i wait until i do have enough money to get it tune. I will need to put the turbo in and drive to get my car " tune " either way i need to either run an FMU or run a base program. Thanx for your replay, I know its not good to boost on a untune motor but either way i will have to drive it without it tune first. So then its better off getting an FMU and run 8lbs until i get it and ditch the fmu right ?

 

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even i wait until i do have enough money to get it tune. I will need to put the turbo in and drive to get my car " tune " either way i need to either run an FMU or run a base program. Thanx for your replay, I know its not good to boost on a untune motor but either way i will have to drive it without it tune first. So then its better off getting an FMU and run 8lbs until i get it and ditch the fmu right ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

***** foot the gas... don't floor it and you won't hit boost...

 

cant u just drive really really slow to the tuner? no need to hit boost on basemap.

 

okay gotcah guys... So if i wanted to hit boost then i'll need an FMU basically then right.