Help review this price quote for me plz.
1 Honda B16A SIRI engine assembly w/ ??,000 miles for transplant into a 1990 Honda Civic Si H/B. Includes engine, intake manifold, fuel rail w/ injectors, throttle body, exhaust manifold, A-pipe, alternator, distributor, ECM, Y1 transmission w/ LSD, starter, clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, intermediate shaft, and all related sensors. Price does not include shipping. 1,650.00 1,650.00 T
Freight in on the above item. 220.00 220.00
0 Installation service on the above item. All items are installed to manufacturer's specifications. 72.00 0.00 T
1 Low Vibration Bolt In Mount Kit to adapt B16A/B17/B18A engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 425.00 425.00 T
1 Shift linkage & mechanisms to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. We must charge a core charge of $100.00 until the manufacturer receives the stock linkage as a core return. 150.28 150.28 T
1 Left axle assembly to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 175.00 175.00 T
1 Right axle assembly to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 175.00 175.00 T
1 Complete Engine Harness to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civic Si/HF. We must charge a core charge of $50.00 until the manufacturer receives the stock harness as a core return. 250.00 250.00 T
1 Throttle cable bracket to adapt B18A engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 12.00 12.00 T
1 Cold Air Intake System for '88-'91 Honda Civic/CRX with B16A/B17/B18A, blue powder coated steel pining with K & N conical filter element. 185.78 185.78 T
0 Castrol GTX 5W-30 Motor Oil, quart. 3.29 0.00 T
0 Honda/Acura Factory Oil Filter. Includes oil drain bolt crush washer part # 94109-14000. 6.90 0.00 T
0 Special Spark Plug. 5.98 0.00 T
1 Alternator Belt. 8.23 8.23 T
1 Rear Transmission Mount Bolt, each. 2.47 2.47 T
2 Rear Transmission Mount Bolt, each. 4.33 8.66 T
1 2" O.D. Aluminized Steel Piping, 16 Gauge 10' Long. 19.56 19.56 T
0 Welding work on the above item. 35.00 0.00
1 Honda Upper Radiator Hose for Honda Motor Swaps. 19.49 19.49 T
1 Honda Lower Radiator Hose for Honda Motor Swaps. 23.95 23.95 T
All Items needed for B16A SIR I Swap into '88-'91 Honda Civic Si/DX. 3,325.42 3,325.42
Sales Tax 6.35% 197.19
All prices on this estimate are valid for 90 days from the date of this estimate. By signing this estimate or e-mailing back a confirmation, the client agrees to the amount of the proposed investment and authorizes Modern Garage to begin work.
Proposed Investment
$3,522.61
even if I only go with engine, ecu, tranny(lsd) it will be 2 grand after tax, this all seems a bit steep, but this is from a really reliable shop.
Would it be cheaper to get it shipped from import auto salvage ?
He also told me place racing mounts were far superior and if I used them the axles I would need would be stock instead of crafting my own, I didnt know axles depending on mounts.
Any thoughts would be helpfull, thanks !
Freight in on the above item. 220.00 220.00
0 Installation service on the above item. All items are installed to manufacturer's specifications. 72.00 0.00 T
1 Low Vibration Bolt In Mount Kit to adapt B16A/B17/B18A engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 425.00 425.00 T
1 Shift linkage & mechanisms to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. We must charge a core charge of $100.00 until the manufacturer receives the stock linkage as a core return. 150.28 150.28 T
1 Left axle assembly to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 175.00 175.00 T
1 Right axle assembly to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 175.00 175.00 T
1 Complete Engine Harness to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civic Si/HF. We must charge a core charge of $50.00 until the manufacturer receives the stock harness as a core return. 250.00 250.00 T
1 Throttle cable bracket to adapt B18A engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 12.00 12.00 T
1 Cold Air Intake System for '88-'91 Honda Civic/CRX with B16A/B17/B18A, blue powder coated steel pining with K & N conical filter element. 185.78 185.78 T
0 Castrol GTX 5W-30 Motor Oil, quart. 3.29 0.00 T
0 Honda/Acura Factory Oil Filter. Includes oil drain bolt crush washer part # 94109-14000. 6.90 0.00 T
0 Special Spark Plug. 5.98 0.00 T
1 Alternator Belt. 8.23 8.23 T
1 Rear Transmission Mount Bolt, each. 2.47 2.47 T
2 Rear Transmission Mount Bolt, each. 4.33 8.66 T
1 2" O.D. Aluminized Steel Piping, 16 Gauge 10' Long. 19.56 19.56 T
0 Welding work on the above item. 35.00 0.00
1 Honda Upper Radiator Hose for Honda Motor Swaps. 19.49 19.49 T
1 Honda Lower Radiator Hose for Honda Motor Swaps. 23.95 23.95 T
All Items needed for B16A SIR I Swap into '88-'91 Honda Civic Si/DX. 3,325.42 3,325.42
Sales Tax 6.35% 197.19
All prices on this estimate are valid for 90 days from the date of this estimate. By signing this estimate or e-mailing back a confirmation, the client agrees to the amount of the proposed investment and authorizes Modern Garage to begin work.
Proposed Investment
$3,522.61
even if I only go with engine, ecu, tranny(lsd) it will be 2 grand after tax, this all seems a bit steep, but this is from a really reliable shop.
Would it be cheaper to get it shipped from import auto salvage ?
He also told me place racing mounts were far superior and if I used them the axles I would need would be stock instead of crafting my own, I didnt know axles depending on mounts.
Any thoughts would be helpfull, thanks !
damn wish I had that quote, Im payin 4,200 for my swap
and they have the car for 2weeks now still not done. and Im not even getting lsd or cold air intake in the price.
and they have the car for 2weeks now still not done. and Im not even getting lsd or cold air intake in the price.
those prices seem very high to me. what kind of mounts are those for $425 the way everything is worded they can just use e-bay junk and make a killing off of them. BTW I paid $65 a piece for my shafts with a lifetime warranty
looks about right - the engine price seems a little high - should be able to get axles for about $80 ea. - wiring harness a little high - the main thing i notice about it is that for any swap we <U>always</U> install new timing belt, new water pump, new thermostat, new pan gasket and front and rear seals, new cap, rotor and plug wires and highly recommend new valve cover gasket and new clutch assembly.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those prices seem very high to me. what kind of mounts are those for $425 the way everything is worded they can just use e-bay junk and make a killing off of them. BTW I paid $65 a piece for my shafts with a lifetime warranty</TD></TR></TABLE>at the end of his post he says Place mounts and something about being able to use stock axles - we use stock axles with the Hasport mounts with no problems, so i don't understand his comment - Hasport is less money
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Yeah it confused me too. He was telling me Hasport used custom axles, which if Im using a crx SIR engine it says on hasports site I need to construct axles. but apparantly the place racing ones dont require to do that ? Im not sure : /
Modern Garage does *INCREDIBLE* work. They do the cleanest installs in the state and I have nothing bad to say about their work. They also have Cortney working for them who is the best tuner in the state. They also have an AWD dyno in house courtesy of Cobb.
MG will use all OEM parts and every bolt will be torqued to spec according to the Honda Factory Service Manuals that they have.
They are a bit pricey, but worth it for the extra quality you are receiving. If you don't want to spend a lot of money you could sure do it yourself, but then you have no one to bitch at if something goes wrong except yourself.
b16a swap - $1200 ebay or through most engine distributors
90-93 teg axles and intermediate shaft - $200
hasport vtec/knock subharness for HF/Si - $?? (not expensive)
cut the linkage the comes with the swap by 2&3/8" then re-weld it back together - $??
hasport billet mounts - $370 shipped on ebay
new waterpump, timing belt, clutch w/ pressure plate, distributor cap, rotor, fuel filter, misc. gaskets, 90-93 integ radiator hoses - $200-300??
doing the swap yourself and learning about mechanics - $priceless/free
btw, i'm in Orem and putting a b17a into my wife's 90 hatch in the next couple weeks. if you want to come check it out you're more than welcome.
MG will use all OEM parts and every bolt will be torqued to spec according to the Honda Factory Service Manuals that they have.
They are a bit pricey, but worth it for the extra quality you are receiving. If you don't want to spend a lot of money you could sure do it yourself, but then you have no one to bitch at if something goes wrong except yourself.
b16a swap - $1200 ebay or through most engine distributors
90-93 teg axles and intermediate shaft - $200
hasport vtec/knock subharness for HF/Si - $?? (not expensive)
cut the linkage the comes with the swap by 2&3/8" then re-weld it back together - $??
hasport billet mounts - $370 shipped on ebay
new waterpump, timing belt, clutch w/ pressure plate, distributor cap, rotor, fuel filter, misc. gaskets, 90-93 integ radiator hoses - $200-300??
doing the swap yourself and learning about mechanics - $priceless/free
btw, i'm in Orem and putting a b17a into my wife's 90 hatch in the next couple weeks. if you want to come check it out you're more than welcome.
I know they do awesome work, but reguardless I wanna do it myself, Im a good mechanic 
I dont think they guarantee the engine unless they install it so it might not be worth paying extra, sinc eI have to pay shiping anyways

I dont think they guarantee the engine unless they install it so it might not be worth paying extra, sinc eI have to pay shiping anyways
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gir »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know they do awesome work, but reguardless I wanna do it myself, Im a good mechanic 
I dont think they guarantee the engine unless they install it so it might not be worth paying extra, sinc eI have to pay shiping anyways</TD></TR></TABLE>
then by all means, do it yourself. the only advantage to buying your stuff from them is if you're having them install it all.

I dont think they guarantee the engine unless they install it so it might not be worth paying extra, sinc eI have to pay shiping anyways</TD></TR></TABLE>
then by all means, do it yourself. the only advantage to buying your stuff from them is if you're having them install it all.
Here's the price for my swap.
B16 (1st Gen/no LSD) from Hmotorsonline = $2000 shipped
This included the Hasport mount kit w/shiftlinkage, and Teg front brakes
Install + labor from Intercrew Auto Salon = ~700
Misc. things I bought from Honda ie..water pump, T-belt, clutch = ~300
3,000 total out the door.
Swap was done in about 2 weeks.
That price seems kinda high to me.
B16 (1st Gen/no LSD) from Hmotorsonline = $2000 shipped
This included the Hasport mount kit w/shiftlinkage, and Teg front brakes
Install + labor from Intercrew Auto Salon = ~700
Misc. things I bought from Honda ie..water pump, T-belt, clutch = ~300
3,000 total out the door.
Swap was done in about 2 weeks.
That price seems kinda high to me.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gir »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This quote is without labor. Its an extra 1000 for install
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screw that- where I live I thought shop prices were steep - I was quoted $3500 including install- you can get teh swap, linkage, mounts - everything from HMO for WAY cheaper than that shop is charging man.
</TD></TR></TABLE>screw that- where I live I thought shop prices were steep - I was quoted $3500 including install- you can get teh swap, linkage, mounts - everything from HMO for WAY cheaper than that shop is charging man.
I agree with everyone those prices are high. If I read it right it was charging 250 for the conversion harness from an hf/si to the vtec. They can be bought for like 50 on ebay, or just make it your self. Plus after doing it yourself, you know the car.



