Help review this price quote for me plz.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 04:48 AM
  #1  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default Help review this price quote for me plz.

1 Honda B16A SIRI engine assembly w/ ??,000 miles for transplant into a 1990 Honda Civic Si H/B. Includes engine, intake manifold, fuel rail w/ injectors, throttle body, exhaust manifold, A-pipe, alternator, distributor, ECM, Y1 transmission w/ LSD, starter, clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, intermediate shaft, and all related sensors. Price does not include shipping. 1,650.00 1,650.00 T
Freight in on the above item. 220.00 220.00
0 Installation service on the above item. All items are installed to manufacturer's specifications. 72.00 0.00 T
1 Low Vibration Bolt In Mount Kit to adapt B16A/B17/B18A engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 425.00 425.00 T
1 Shift linkage & mechanisms to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. We must charge a core charge of $100.00 until the manufacturer receives the stock linkage as a core return. 150.28 150.28 T
1 Left axle assembly to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 175.00 175.00 T
1 Right axle assembly to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 175.00 175.00 T
1 Complete Engine Harness to adapt B16A/B17A/B18A/B18C engines into '88-'91 Honda Civic Si/HF. We must charge a core charge of $50.00 until the manufacturer receives the stock harness as a core return. 250.00 250.00 T
1 Throttle cable bracket to adapt B18A engines into '88-'91 Honda Civics/CRX. 12.00 12.00 T
1 Cold Air Intake System for '88-'91 Honda Civic/CRX with B16A/B17/B18A, blue powder coated steel pining with K & N conical filter element. 185.78 185.78 T
0 Castrol GTX 5W-30 Motor Oil, quart. 3.29 0.00 T
0 Honda/Acura Factory Oil Filter. Includes oil drain bolt crush washer part # 94109-14000. 6.90 0.00 T
0 Special Spark Plug. 5.98 0.00 T
1 Alternator Belt. 8.23 8.23 T
1 Rear Transmission Mount Bolt, each. 2.47 2.47 T
2 Rear Transmission Mount Bolt, each. 4.33 8.66 T
1 2" O.D. Aluminized Steel Piping, 16 Gauge 10' Long. 19.56 19.56 T
0 Welding work on the above item. 35.00 0.00
1 Honda Upper Radiator Hose for Honda Motor Swaps. 19.49 19.49 T
1 Honda Lower Radiator Hose for Honda Motor Swaps. 23.95 23.95 T
All Items needed for B16A SIR I Swap into '88-'91 Honda Civic Si/DX. 3,325.42 3,325.42


Sales Tax 6.35% 197.19



All prices on this estimate are valid for 90 days from the date of this estimate. By signing this estimate or e-mailing back a confirmation, the client agrees to the amount of the proposed investment and authorizes Modern Garage to begin work.

Proposed Investment
$3,522.61


even if I only go with engine, ecu, tranny(lsd) it will be 2 grand after tax, this all seems a bit steep, but this is from a really reliable shop.
Would it be cheaper to get it shipped from import auto salvage ?

He also told me place racing mounts were far superior and if I used them the axles I would need would be stock instead of crafting my own, I didnt know axles depending on mounts.

Any thoughts would be helpfull, thanks !
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 04:53 AM
  #2  
shadowstylz's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 388
Likes: 0
From: Laurel, MD, USA
Default Re: Help review this price quote for me plz. (Gir)

damn wish I had that quote, Im payin 4,200 for my swap and they have the car for 2weeks now still not done. and Im not even getting lsd or cold air intake in the price.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 04:55 AM
  #3  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default

This quote is without labor. Its an extra 1000 for install
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:21 AM
  #4  
SIRX's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,245
Likes: 1
From: west Texas
Default Re: (Gir)

those prices seem very high to me. what kind of mounts are those for $425 the way everything is worded they can just use e-bay junk and make a killing off of them. BTW I paid $65 a piece for my shafts with a lifetime warranty
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:37 AM
  #5  
jlicrx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,647
Likes: 29
From: colorado springs, co, usa
Default Re: Help review this price quote for me plz. (Gir)

looks about right - the engine price seems a little high - should be able to get axles for about $80 ea. - wiring harness a little high - the main thing i notice about it is that for any swap we <U>always</U> install new timing belt, new water pump, new thermostat, new pan gasket and front and rear seals, new cap, rotor and plug wires and highly recommend new valve cover gasket and new clutch assembly.
http://www.zcspeed.com
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:42 AM
  #6  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default

The mounts are place racing I know that for a fact. where can I get lifetime axles for 80 a piece ?
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:44 AM
  #7  
jlicrx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,647
Likes: 29
From: colorado springs, co, usa
Default Re: (SIRX)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those prices seem very high to me. what kind of mounts are those for $425 the way everything is worded they can just use e-bay junk and make a killing off of them. BTW I paid $65 a piece for my shafts with a lifetime warranty</TD></TR></TABLE>at the end of his post he says Place mounts and something about being able to use stock axles - we use stock axles with the Hasport mounts with no problems, so i don't understand his comment - Hasport is less money
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:45 AM
  #8  
jlicrx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,647
Likes: 29
From: colorado springs, co, usa
Default Re: (Gir)

autozone, pep boys, advance auto
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:46 AM
  #9  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default

Yeah it confused me too. He was telling me Hasport used custom axles, which if Im using a crx SIR engine it says on hasports site I need to construct axles. but apparantly the place racing ones dont require to do that ? Im not sure : /
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:49 AM
  #10  
jlicrx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,647
Likes: 29
From: colorado springs, co, usa
Default Re: (Gir)

you just need the right intermediate shaft
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:58 AM
  #11  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default

Ill be getting the y1 tranny, can I switch intermidiate shafts to one where I can buy stock axles?
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:02 AM
  #12  
jlicrx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,647
Likes: 29
From: colorado springs, co, usa
Default Re: (Gir)

yes - 90-93 integra
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:15 AM
  #13  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default

oooo are they expensive ?
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:17 AM
  #14  
YumVTEC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,582
Likes: 0
From: Montgomery Village, MD
Default Re: Help review this price quote for me plz. (Gir)

Modern Garage does *INCREDIBLE* work. They do the cleanest installs in the state and I have nothing bad to say about their work. They also have Cortney working for them who is the best tuner in the state. They also have an AWD dyno in house courtesy of Cobb.

MG will use all OEM parts and every bolt will be torqued to spec according to the Honda Factory Service Manuals that they have.

They are a bit pricey, but worth it for the extra quality you are receiving. If you don't want to spend a lot of money you could sure do it yourself, but then you have no one to bitch at if something goes wrong except yourself.

b16a swap - $1200 ebay or through most engine distributors
90-93 teg axles and intermediate shaft - $200
hasport vtec/knock subharness for HF/Si - $?? (not expensive)
cut the linkage the comes with the swap by 2&3/8" then re-weld it back together - $??
hasport billet mounts - $370 shipped on ebay
new waterpump, timing belt, clutch w/ pressure plate, distributor cap, rotor, fuel filter, misc. gaskets, 90-93 integ radiator hoses - $200-300??
doing the swap yourself and learning about mechanics - $priceless/free

btw, i'm in Orem and putting a b17a into my wife's 90 hatch in the next couple weeks. if you want to come check it out you're more than welcome.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:19 AM
  #15  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default

I know they do awesome work, but reguardless I wanna do it myself, Im a good mechanic
I dont think they guarantee the engine unless they install it so it might not be worth paying extra, sinc eI have to pay shiping anyways
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:21 AM
  #16  
YumVTEC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,582
Likes: 0
From: Montgomery Village, MD
Default Re: (Gir)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know they do awesome work, but reguardless I wanna do it myself, Im a good mechanic
I dont think they guarantee the engine unless they install it so it might not be worth paying extra, sinc eI have to pay shiping anyways</TD></TR></TABLE>

then by all means, do it yourself. the only advantage to buying your stuff from them is if you're having them install it all.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:22 AM
  #17  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default

how hard is it to change intermediate shafts ?
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:24 AM
  #18  
jlicrx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,647
Likes: 29
From: colorado springs, co, usa
Default Re: (Gir)

couple of bolts - we get them from junkyard - about $50
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:26 AM
  #19  
REDBARON's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 2,431
Likes: 2
From: DALLAS, TX, 75224
Default Re: (jlicrx)

Here's the price for my swap.
B16 (1st Gen/no LSD) from Hmotorsonline = $2000 shipped
This included the Hasport mount kit w/shiftlinkage, and Teg front brakes
Install + labor from Intercrew Auto Salon = ~700
Misc. things I bought from Honda ie..water pump, T-belt, clutch = ~300
3,000 total out the door.
Swap was done in about 2 weeks.
That price seems kinda high to me.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:33 AM
  #20  
jlicrx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,647
Likes: 29
From: colorado springs, co, usa
Default Re: (REDBARON)

i agree - for $3600, he should be able to get it installed with the lsd, etc. - for do it yourself $2500-$2800
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:39 AM
  #21  
Proper's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,113
Likes: 0
From: SoCal, 909
Default Re: (jlicrx)

Good God that seems high for a B16 swap. My buddy got his GSR Swap into an EG for 4300. And I think one of the local shops around here swaps in B16's for like 2800 total.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:10 AM
  #22  
DJ_SaNdOz's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,365
Likes: 1
From: TX, USA
Default Re: (Gir)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This quote is without labor. Its an extra 1000 for install </TD></TR></TABLE>

screw that- where I live I thought shop prices were steep - I was quoted $3500 including install- you can get teh swap, linkage, mounts - everything from HMO for WAY cheaper than that shop is charging man.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:33 AM
  #23  
.Noah Fecks's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,051
Likes: 0
From: Bat Country
Default Re: (DJ_SaNdOz)

damn kid. arent you mechanically inclined enough to do that **** yourself?
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:34 AM
  #24  
Gir's Avatar
Gir
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: American fork, Ut
Default

As I posted earlier these are parts prices not shop prices, Ive always planned on doing it myself. If your going to flame read the whole post
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 11:00 AM
  #25  
Swift's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 370
Likes: 11
From: G E Orgi A
Default Re: Help review this price quote for me plz. (Gir)

I agree with everyone those prices are high. If I read it right it was charging 250 for the conversion harness from an hf/si to the vtec. They can be bought for like 50 on ebay, or just make it your self. Plus after doing it yourself, you know the car.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:41 AM.