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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Default Euro Accord Type R motor into a 92 Prelude S....

Can I use the stock mounts that are on the f22 motor or do I need them off of an h22a? The accord R motor came with mounts but I'm not sure which if any I can use. I know the drivers side is different, what about the rear tranny bracket?

I'm planning on running a 93-95 h22a ecu.

Is there any tips you guys have or any quirks I need to know of.

BTW I've done a couple of h22a swap into h23 preludes and such just never with a newer motor like this.

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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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o/t but how difficult is the h22 into an Si swap? what kind of equipment would someone need to install properly? sorry for the o/t..you can pm me if you want.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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I put the Euro R h22 into my 89, and it seemed to me that most of the mounts were identical to every other h22 mount I'd seen. I don't know the engine bay of anything other than a 3rd gen, so i can't help you with the stock mounts that came with it, though.
I am wondering though, I had so much trouble with Place Racing's mount kit; do you think the Euro R h22 is a tad bit bigger than the standard h22? The tranny maybe? Like I said, I've never had another h22 to compare it to, so I don't know.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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you know what I DO know. The bolt holes on the driverside bracket that's attatched to the block (under the timing cover) are too wide for the h22 mount. I had to replace that whole bracket with a '00 h22 mount bracket (usdm prelude, obviousely).
Then again, I don't know anything other than the 3rd gen engine bay, so I'm not positive you'll need to switch it. Just a heads up.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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Default Re: Euro Accord Type R motor into a 92 Prelude S.... (NatakuBlitz)

H22a in an h23A car....

VERY EASY. did a usdm swap just dropped the motor and h22a engine harness in. Everything plugged up including vtec wires. Pretty straight forward. The swap car was a 93 I think.

For anyone who knows is the 92-95 h22a IACV a two or three wire plug. The Euro R motor has a three wire plug.

Are the mounts on the f22 motor from a prelude S the same as h22a mounts as in can I switch them over to the Euro R motor or do I need h22/h23 mounts.

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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 04:49 AM
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I think you can switch them straight over, you'll just need to change the driverside bracket.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 05:59 AM
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what are the specs on the euro r motor? is that the f20 dohc vtec? or the h23a vtec motor?

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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:05 AM
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h22 vtec.
It's pretty much the same as the Type S prelude h22, except is has the single runner intake manifold.
220hp 163 ft/lbs (I'm pretty sure).
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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the euro r has 212hp http://www.europeanhonda.demon...s.htm
some info on it the new one comeing out the 2.4l sounds pretty cool! it would be cool if u can swap one in a 4th gen
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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I was thinking I needed the drivers side bracket.

CAn anyone tell me if the 92-95 h22a IACV is a two or three wire?

TIA
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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nice motor- btw where did you get it/.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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Hmotorsonline.com Motor is probably the cleanest I've ever seen. Looks brand new.

Does anyone know if the f22 that came in the prelude S are the same as the h22a (92-96) ones?
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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I have a euro-r tranny on my H22a...it's the same size same mounts. The Euro-R motor isthe exact same size
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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to make a accord h22 work in a prelude your gona need the accord driverside mount, everything else should bolt up fine
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Are you sure. It is still an h22a motor?
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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yes im sure. a friend of mine put a R motor in his accord and didnt have to use the prelude driver side mount, the accord one worked, there for in a prelude your gona have to use the accord mount
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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or swap the bracket on the block with the prelude bracket.
The Accord Type R got the 212 hp version.
The Euro R got the 220 ps (which is something around 217 hp).
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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Thanks for the info guys I just want to get this sorted out with the mounts before install on Wednesday.

I have all the mounts off the f22 prelude engine and I have all the mounts from the Euro R motor. This was my plan:
-Use the stock chassis rear mount and the tranny bracket off the f22(same as 93 h22a?) motor
-Use the stock f22 (same as h22a?) upper tranny mount
-use the stock chassis front mount and the stock front tranny bracket
-Drivers side bracket I'm coinfused on. Logic would tell me to use the h22a (93) bracket and the stock f22 mount which looks to be the same as h22a. I'm also considering comparing the f22 engine bracket to the h22a one. Reason being the motor even though it came in an accord is still an h22a block casting and will be identicle mounting wise to a normal h22a motor.

Just a reminder when I say f22 I'm referring to an f22 out of a prelude and not an accord.

Thanks for the help guys.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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f or h motor dosnt matter, its the car it came out of, accord or prelude.

if the h22 comes out of a prelude then you use a prelude driverside mount, if it came out of an accord use an accord driver side mount. for the othere 3 use teh ones that go w/the car you putting the motor in.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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going to have to use the prelude drivers side mount. I have a h22a4 from a jdm prelude sir-s in my accord and the only thing that i needed that I didn't have from my car was the prelude mount.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by btlfed1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">going to have to use the prelude drivers side mount. I have a h22a4 from a jdm prelude sir-s in my accord and the only thing that i needed that I didn't have from my car was the prelude mount. </TD></TR></TABLE>


you had to use the prelude mount because your h22 came from a prelude. if you have a h22 that came from an accord you have to use an accord mount..... cant you people read?
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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I'm just curious as to why since the block is an h22a casting no matter what car it came out of?
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 12:48 AM
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because the bracket on teh block is differnt and designed to go in a accord, not a prelude. if you wana goto the trouble of finding a prelude h22 bracket then you can but gettin a accord mount would be easier and requre less work
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