b16 set up in 88-91
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Re: b16 set up in 88-91 (efracer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by efracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone running this set-up ?
b16
ctr pistons
skunk valvetrain
itr cams
chipped p28
in an 88-91 hatch, crx, or preferrably sedan? </TD></TR></TABLE>
well personally i would rather use a PR3 that comes with the compete swap, get hondata s100 and tune it rather than converting it over to OBD1
The only reason why (I think) anyone should convert their motor to OBD1 is if they are running turbo and want more options on tunning.
Just for all that listed you should me more than fine with a PR3.
BTW if your getting ITR cams why not get ITR valve springs over Skunk2?
b16
ctr pistons
skunk valvetrain
itr cams
chipped p28
in an 88-91 hatch, crx, or preferrably sedan? </TD></TR></TABLE>
well personally i would rather use a PR3 that comes with the compete swap, get hondata s100 and tune it rather than converting it over to OBD1
The only reason why (I think) anyone should convert their motor to OBD1 is if they are running turbo and want more options on tunning.
Just for all that listed you should me more than fine with a PR3.
BTW if your getting ITR cams why not get ITR valve springs over Skunk2?
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Re: b16 set up in 88-91 (Charlie Moua)
i dunno .. thats what i'm looking for is advice on if i need to tweak my plans before i finalize. what would be the advantage of ITR valve springs over S2 ?? i'm sure they are prob cheaper ??
as far as ecu .. i like the hondata idea, i'm just not familiar with them yet. what does the hondata control ? fuel and what else ?
as far as ecu .. i like the hondata idea, i'm just not familiar with them yet. what does the hondata control ? fuel and what else ?
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Re: b16 set up in 88-91 (efracer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by efracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hondata site says s100 isn't compatable w/ the pr3 ?? is that a misprint or is that the wrong model ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's the wrong model... the PR3 ECU needs the Stage2/3/4 ECU upgrade rather than the newer S100 or S200 model Hondata chips.
What exactly it does is listed on the page I posted. However, you should note that while a tuner with the stage 4 upgrade can tune your stage 1, 2, 3, you can't tune it yourself, which I find highly annoying.
Personally I'm looking at the AEM EMS right now.
That's the wrong model... the PR3 ECU needs the Stage2/3/4 ECU upgrade rather than the newer S100 or S200 model Hondata chips.
What exactly it does is listed on the page I posted. However, you should note that while a tuner with the stage 4 upgrade can tune your stage 1, 2, 3, you can't tune it yourself, which I find highly annoying.
Personally I'm looking at the AEM EMS right now.
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Re: b16 set up in 88-91 (raene)
i noticed that last night as i was reading ... it does say that some options can be controlled by the user, is it just mainly the fuel and ignition that needs to be handled by a tuner?
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Re: b16 set up in 88-91 (efracer)
AFAIK yes... I think if you choose options like the full-throttle launch, then you can set the launch RPM by going through a sequence of steps, ie hold throttle at desired launch rpm for 3 seconds and the Hondata will flash, indicating that's the new launch rpm, or something like that.
But yeah, you'll need a ROM Editor V3 or Stage 4 to tune yourself
But yeah, you'll need a ROM Editor V3 or Stage 4 to tune yourself
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Re: b16 set up in 88-91 (Charlie Moua)
I'm a big fan of supporting OBD1 in the 88-91 Civic/CRX's. Why?
One big thing is the damn, rare, OBD0 Dohc Vtec distributors that have a high failure rate. I'd rather use the newer, more readily available OBD1 Dohc Vtec distributors.
Two, there are more options for aftermarket headers if you run OBD1 and a single 4-wire O2.
( I see many owners of OBD0 PR3/PWO set-ups just run one 1-wire O2 with a OBD1 header. Not good, the PR3/PWO needs to see 2 separate signals and the O2 must be up high near the head to heat up properly.)
Three, there are way more tuning options if your car is running OBD1. I personally switched to OBD1 just for the distributor issue, but Im finding out more and more advantages of going OBD1. I'll never go back to OBD0.
( I still swap OBD0 swaps for customers if they dont have the extra money to convert their vehicles, but I highly recommend it though )
One big thing is the damn, rare, OBD0 Dohc Vtec distributors that have a high failure rate. I'd rather use the newer, more readily available OBD1 Dohc Vtec distributors.
Two, there are more options for aftermarket headers if you run OBD1 and a single 4-wire O2.
( I see many owners of OBD0 PR3/PWO set-ups just run one 1-wire O2 with a OBD1 header. Not good, the PR3/PWO needs to see 2 separate signals and the O2 must be up high near the head to heat up properly.)
Three, there are way more tuning options if your car is running OBD1. I personally switched to OBD1 just for the distributor issue, but Im finding out more and more advantages of going OBD1. I'll never go back to OBD0.
( I still swap OBD0 swaps for customers if they dont have the extra money to convert their vehicles, but I highly recommend it though )
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