Summit Point 06/21-22 results up
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Summit Point 06/21-22 results up
http://www.nasaracing.net/03Jun21/index.shtml
Interesting that the BMW that won Small Bore on Saturday was 3rd overall in Big Bore Sunday, behind two SU cars.
Some guy named Franza was 2nd overall Saturday and 1st overall Sunday in Small Bore.
Interesting that the BMW that won Small Bore on Saturday was 3rd overall in Big Bore Sunday, behind two SU cars.
Some guy named Franza was 2nd overall Saturday and 1st overall Sunday in Small Bore.
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (Geezer)
Franza was really hauling *** out there, I think he got progressively faster in the small bore race Sunday
he and Alex put on a hell of a show for those guys in small bore and big bore
he and Alex put on a hell of a show for those guys in small bore and big bore
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (urbanlegend21)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urbanlegend21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Franza was really hauling *** out there, I think he got progressively faster in the small bore race Sunday
he and Alex put on a hell of a show for those guys in small bore and big bore</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, I thought everybody put on a good show in small bore and big bore...
Eric R.
he and Alex put on a hell of a show for those guys in small bore and big bore</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, I thought everybody put on a good show in small bore and big bore...
Eric R.
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (PS4SE-R)
hi eric.
what happened to the blue SE-R (#3) on Sun? i knew that the black one (#38) had some hub probs on sat, but what happened to your blue one on Sun??
todd
what happened to the blue SE-R (#3) on Sun? i knew that the black one (#38) had some hub probs on sat, but what happened to your blue one on Sun??
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (Todd Reid)
not a good weekend for the SeR's, I went out first session sat and broke an axle, fixed it went out 2nd session and thought i broke it again, finally figured out (i think) bearing on spindle shot, pulled whole side of car off w/ hopes that buddy was going to bring a spare spindle ....which he couldn't get off the parts car so I packed it up and went home
Eric's brakes were bad all weekend (i think he thought the master cylinder was bad so I think he decided not to risk his or anyone else's car on sunday.....
Eric's brakes were bad all weekend (i think he thought the master cylinder was bad so I think he decided not to risk his or anyone else's car on sunday.....
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (Dented Rx7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dented Rx7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not a good weekend for the SeR's</TD></TR></TABLE>
from what i've collected over the past few years is that it's rarely a good weekend for the SE-Rs.
from what i've collected over the past few years is that it's rarely a good weekend for the SE-Rs.
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (speedracer33)
i can't afford one (a Honda) Bookler !!!!!!:-)
lets just say i paid less for the SER than you did for certain parts of your car :-)
and it still is quick for what it cost, finishing ahead of H3 GSRs at cmp ;-)
not as quick as eric's SER (which did 1.29's i think w/me in it at lowes and 1.54's w/ eric in it at cmp)
The black SER has had its problems with other drivers but this is the first weekend since i have had it that it completely broke....so don't go knocking its reliability yet their JMU :-)
besides, the blue car has about 6 or 7 years of racing on it and the black car 3.....
given their age and wear and tear (and realtive cost :-))...I think the old Nissan boys are holding their own :-)
see y'all at VIR N when i have that bum axle/spindle/ etc fixed
ps. at least its quicker than the Rx7 was :-)
lets just say i paid less for the SER than you did for certain parts of your car :-)
and it still is quick for what it cost, finishing ahead of H3 GSRs at cmp ;-)
not as quick as eric's SER (which did 1.29's i think w/me in it at lowes and 1.54's w/ eric in it at cmp)
The black SER has had its problems with other drivers but this is the first weekend since i have had it that it completely broke....so don't go knocking its reliability yet their JMU :-)
besides, the blue car has about 6 or 7 years of racing on it and the black car 3.....
given their age and wear and tear (and realtive cost :-))...I think the old Nissan boys are holding their own :-)
see y'all at VIR N when i have that bum axle/spindle/ etc fixed
ps. at least its quicker than the Rx7 was :-)
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (Dented Rx7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dented Rx7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and it still is quick for what it cost, finishing ahead of H3 GSRs at cmp ;-)</TD></TR></TABLE>
werd. I was this || close to getting an SE-R for $1500 a couple months ago. But the guy sold it out from under me, after not being home when I showed up to look at it, then telling me to come back and it was gone.
btw, Payton ran a 1:30 in his SM on sunday....fuggggg Im hoping I can break 1:40 when I get mine built......
werd. I was this || close to getting an SE-R for $1500 a couple months ago. But the guy sold it out from under me, after not being home when I showed up to look at it, then telling me to come back and it was gone.
btw, Payton ran a 1:30 in his SM on sunday....fuggggg Im hoping I can break 1:40 when I get mine built......
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (elgorey)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elgorey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw, Payton ran a 1:30 in his SM on sunday....fuggggg Im hoping I can break 1:40 when I get mine built...... </TD></TR></TABLE>
1:40 should be cake. If I can turn a 1:37 in my SRX-7 after three weekends at the track, you certainly should manage a 1:35 or better in the SM.
</TD></TR></TABLE>1:40 should be cake. If I can turn a 1:37 in my SRX-7 after three weekends at the track, you certainly should manage a 1:35 or better in the SM.
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (JMU1337)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU1337 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
from what i've collected over the past few years is that it's rarely a good weekend for the SE-Rs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And from what I have collected, your statement is so far from the truth. Do you ever look at results for small bore? Maybe you know better than I do, but when over the past three years, has my car not finished a race? Does your collection of data tell you that?
Eric R.
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from what i've collected over the past few years is that it's rarely a good weekend for the SE-Rs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And from what I have collected, your statement is so far from the truth. Do you ever look at results for small bore? Maybe you know better than I do, but when over the past three years, has my car not finished a race? Does your collection of data tell you that?
Eric R.
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Re: Summit Point 06/21-22 results up (JMU1337)
SE-Rs are good stuff. Hondas are good stuff. So are Mazdas. And BMWs. "It's all good" IMO. Tend to a car the way its needs require and they all suddenly become reliable.
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Eric, so you're trying to say that since your car is reliable and rarely breaks that all follow suit? That logic is flawed - almost like saying "my meticulously maintained and built with aftermarket parts Mustang is reliable, it always finishes. Therefore, all Mustangs are reliable." Given enough time and money, one can make any car reliable, that's not my point though, I am talking about relatively "OEM" vehicles.
Can you honestly say that breaking an axle is not a relatively common occurence for most SE-R drivers? How about your rental car, does it finish every weekend?
And no, I do not look at results, 99% of the time while at the track I'm out on a corner sweating/freezing/soaking my *** off trying to keep you safe and by the end of the day I could honestly care less about who finished and where.
In no way, shape, or form was I saying the SE-R is an unfit car for the track, I was simply (and pretty jokingly) pointing out the fact that they aren't the most reliable machines out there.
Above all, I was not singling you out, instead a model of car. No need to take anything personally.
Modified by JMU1337 at 12:43 AM 6/25/2003
Can you honestly say that breaking an axle is not a relatively common occurence for most SE-R drivers? How about your rental car, does it finish every weekend?
And no, I do not look at results, 99% of the time while at the track I'm out on a corner sweating/freezing/soaking my *** off trying to keep you safe and by the end of the day I could honestly care less about who finished and where.
In no way, shape, or form was I saying the SE-R is an unfit car for the track, I was simply (and pretty jokingly) pointing out the fact that they aren't the most reliable machines out there.
Above all, I was not singling you out, instead a model of car. No need to take anything personally.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU1337 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Eric, so you're trying to say that since your car is reliable and rarely breaks that all follow suit? That logic is flawed
Can you honestly say that breaking an axle is not a relatively common occurence for most SE-R drivers? How about your rental car, does it finish every weekend?
In no way, shape, or form was I saying the SE-R is an unfit car for the track, I was simply (and pretty jokingly) pointing out the fact that they aren't the most reliable machines out there.
Above all, I was not singling you out, instead a model of car. No need to take anything personally.
Modified by JMU1337 at 12:43 AM 6/25/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
A. In my response, I not once, said that since my SE-R is relilable therefore all SE-Rs are relilable and finish every race. Thus I am a bit curious about why my logic is flawed. How about yours? It was quite difficult to tell that you were joking.
B. Breaking an axle on a race car is a relatively common experience on front drive race cars. SE-Rs, preludes, H1 powered CRXs.
C. My rental car was sold almost 2 years ago. And no, it hasn't finished every weekend.
Take care.
Eric
Can you honestly say that breaking an axle is not a relatively common occurence for most SE-R drivers? How about your rental car, does it finish every weekend?
In no way, shape, or form was I saying the SE-R is an unfit car for the track, I was simply (and pretty jokingly) pointing out the fact that they aren't the most reliable machines out there.
Above all, I was not singling you out, instead a model of car. No need to take anything personally.
Modified by JMU1337 at 12:43 AM 6/25/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
A. In my response, I not once, said that since my SE-R is relilable therefore all SE-Rs are relilable and finish every race. Thus I am a bit curious about why my logic is flawed. How about yours? It was quite difficult to tell that you were joking.
B. Breaking an axle on a race car is a relatively common experience on front drive race cars. SE-Rs, preludes, H1 powered CRXs.
C. My rental car was sold almost 2 years ago. And no, it hasn't finished every weekend.
Take care.
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B. Breaking an axle on a race car is a relatively common experience on front drive race cars. SE-Rs, preludes, H1 powered CRXs.
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I'll agree with you on the prelude part, but an H1 CRX is on a whole new level as compared to a relatively stock SE-R or Prelude. The car simply wasn't designed for 200+whp, it's being pushed beyond any limits than what Honda had ever imagined or planned for.
B. Breaking an axle on a race car is a relatively common experience on front drive race cars. SE-Rs, preludes, H1 powered CRXs.
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I'll agree with you on the prelude part, but an H1 CRX is on a whole new level as compared to a relatively stock SE-R or Prelude. The car simply wasn't designed for 200+whp, it's being pushed beyond any limits than what Honda had ever imagined or planned for.
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Also the prelude axle snapping was solved as soon as corey put his UCA's back on the sides they came on (he had swapped them right to left). This was a suspension geometry problem induced by modification, not a honda problem.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU1337 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'll agree with you on the prelude part, but an H1 CRX is on a whole new level as compared to a relatively stock SE-R or Prelude. The car simply wasn't designed for 200+whp, it's being pushed beyond any limits than what Honda had ever imagined or planned for.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ill agree that mr. honda never planned for a 200hp crx...this is a given.
the crx for which you are speaking of could be alleviated of its driveline failure tendencies very easily....I estimate 45 minutes of my time, or any other person with similar experience or know how. There is only so many times you can try to help a guy out, and beat it into one's skull of what is almost guaranteed to be amis before even a dumb redneck like myself gives up...
Btw, 200hp on those axles is a joke...even stage 20 John Force spec driveline components will break with his configuration.
I'll agree with you on the prelude part, but an H1 CRX is on a whole new level as compared to a relatively stock SE-R or Prelude. The car simply wasn't designed for 200+whp, it's being pushed beyond any limits than what Honda had ever imagined or planned for.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ill agree that mr. honda never planned for a 200hp crx...this is a given.
the crx for which you are speaking of could be alleviated of its driveline failure tendencies very easily....I estimate 45 minutes of my time, or any other person with similar experience or know how. There is only so many times you can try to help a guy out, and beat it into one's skull of what is almost guaranteed to be amis before even a dumb redneck like myself gives up...
Btw, 200hp on those axles is a joke...even stage 20 John Force spec driveline components will break with his configuration.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU1337 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you honestly say that breaking an axle is not a relatively common occurence for most SE-R drivers? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Has 152,000 miles on his original OEM axles (50,000 of which has been very hard on them).
Just an extra data point.
Has 152,000 miles on his original OEM axles (50,000 of which has been very hard on them). Just an extra data point.
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Do you like... the jello pudding? This is the cos, y'see. It's got the wiggles and the jiggle all over the place.
Andy - who's jello is more like dirty water every day...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Do you like... the jello pudding? This is the cos, y'see. It's got the wiggles and the jiggle all over the place.
Andy - who's jello is more like dirty water every day...
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That is amazing, Andy. 152k? Your car must've been built on a Tuesday when nobody was hung over (Sat/Sun), pissed off (Monday), bored (Wednesday), distracted (Thursday) or just plain slacking off (Friday.) 
FWIW both my SE-R's went through axles like nobody's business. Literally like two sets a year, or more. It didn't matter who the rebuild was through... Bap Geon, AutoZone, Advance, Pep Boys, NAPA... I killed all of them, sometimes both at once. Of course my cars were "slammed" nearly 1.3" so the front end geometry was *all* wrong, and I did street-race Vin Diesel-style *all* the time... Other than that they were the most reliable cars I've ever owned.
Jon
ps- maybe it is Karl Shultz's fault somehow?
FWIW both my SE-R's went through axles like nobody's business. Literally like two sets a year, or more. It didn't matter who the rebuild was through... Bap Geon, AutoZone, Advance, Pep Boys, NAPA... I killed all of them, sometimes both at once. Of course my cars were "slammed" nearly 1.3" so the front end geometry was *all* wrong, and I did street-race Vin Diesel-style *all* the time...
Other than that they were the most reliable cars I've ever owned. Jon
ps- maybe it is Karl Shultz's fault somehow?
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ps- maybe it is Karl Shultz's fault somehow?
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Highly likely, he must know someone in Nissan.
ps- maybe it is Karl Shultz's fault somehow?
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Highly likely, he must know someone in Nissan.
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More data
Matt's SE-R:
101,000 miles.
The last 60,000 turned in great anger over the last 3.5 years.
One driver's side axle replaced because it sounded like it was thinking about maybe perhaps going bad.
My typical maintinance:
Change oil.
Fill with 93 octane.
Drive the **** out of it.
Occasionally hit a tire wall.
Don't let Karl near it again.
Matt's SE-R:
101,000 miles.
The last 60,000 turned in great anger over the last 3.5 years.
One driver's side axle replaced because it sounded like it was thinking about maybe perhaps going bad.
My typical maintinance:
Change oil.
Fill with 93 octane.
Drive the **** out of it.
Occasionally hit a tire wall.
Don't let Karl near it again.
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