Hey guys as you know I was thinking about selling my ITR for an EVO. I'm having second thoughts about selling her, let me tell you why. For the last few years the ITR has given me nothing but joy. From the looks to the mountain carving joy to the sound the engine, it put a smile on my face day by day. Now it seems as if the mighty type R days are number with cars like the EVO and STI. I know these cars cost more but their potential cannot be overlooked. I was thinking about modding my car to run with these but the amount $$$$ used for minimal gains is starting to **** me off, along with the theft problem.

Ive driven both the STI and the EVO back to back and the EVO's interior is bothering me. Its so freaking cheap for 30k compared to the STI. I never thought the interior of a performance car would even be a factor but it is (prolly cause I never used that much cash on a car). The performance was superior to the R but the driving pleasure didn't seem to be there (But I was only on a test ride). The STI on the other hand was great in every aspect, but my friend owns one so thats out of the question. An s4 is an option but for 30k but I think a new car would be better unless someone states otherwise and can find one for a good price. Also do you think the later years EVO's will up the ante to compete with the STI? For the people who traded in their R's for EVO's, tell me what you think and how you feel.

Please don't reply with: "Make your decision on your own" or "Whatever you want" or "God not another EVO. STI thread". Please I'm asking for you opinions and any opinion is welcome. I know this isn't gonna be completely un-biased but lets try. Thanks in advance.


Modified by hooptie157 at 10:44 AM 6/23/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hooptie157 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The STI on the other hand was great in every aspect, but my friend owns one so thats out of the question</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont understand what you mean by this.

Also you should test drive a E36 M3.

 

I don't think the E36 is quite what he's looking for. It's already passe, and he doesn't do much tracking, if any at all.

He wants a pimpy new car. He doesn't want people to think he copied his friend, and he wants a cool interior. Maybe he should just get an S4.

edit - Hooptie, why are you so concerned that the ITR's days are numbered? People did the same thing with the RSX-S when it came out, then realized "wait a second, this is a different car for a different purpose."

The ITR was never a drag stud to begin with. And from what I know, you're not a frequent street racer, or dragstrip racer. So why does it matter that your car "can't compete" with a 280-hp rally car?

 

If you're looking for something with an 'edge' then, the E36 M3 may not be what you're looking for.

Although i dont quite understand why you cant have the same car as your friend. Your car is, well, yours. Thats like not buying the same t-shirt as someone in the 6th grade.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're looking for something with an 'edge' then, the E36 M3 may not be what you're looking for.

Although i dont quite understand why you cant have the same car as your friend. Your car is, well, yours. Thats like not buying the same t-shirt as someone in the 6th grade.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I really don't want the same car as him plain and simple. This is not a T-shirt its a 31k car. I get to drive the car whenever I want anyway. E36 M3 is definatly a great car and with an AAturbo kit its unstoppable but from what I hear the maintance is out of control (but thats what I hear not experienced). An S4 is definatly my next choice after the EVO. The only thing is ones new and ones used and I never owned a new car .

 

Maintenance on the E36 is sometimes cheaper than an ITR. Ask Reid about this.

I don't anticipate that the EVO or STi will be cheap to maintain.

Just stick with your car and stop worrying every time something under $40K and over 200hp comes out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think the E36 is quite what he's looking for. It's already passe, and he doesn't do much tracking, if any at all.

He wants a pimpy new car. He doesn't want people to think he copied his friend, and he wants a cool interior. Maybe he should just get an S4.

edit - Hooptie, why are you so concerned that the ITR's days are numbered? People did the same thing with the RSX-S when it came out, then realized "wait a second, this is a different car for a different purpose."

The ITR was never a drag stud to begin with. And from what I know, you're not a frequent street racer, or dragstrip racer. So why does it matter that your car "can't compete" with a 280-hp rally car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That about sums up what I would have typed.

The R is not a trend... It's days are not numbered but, rather the days that trendy people drive them are (it is passe already.)

I really don't think I'll ever sell mine. It will just become a full track car eventually and I will acquire different and newer cars for my purposes. I tend to think the 350Z is quite a machine both with looks and performance but, I won't sell my R for one. I'd probably buy one though.

The rally car hype is just the new "buzz" on the scene and just as the automakers gambled, it is selling like hotcakes.

Get what YOU want, and what fits YOUR needs. You will have a seriously difficult time trying to get something exactly like the ITR from whats currently available.

Thats the whole thing though, and thats what makes the R so special and what caught everyones attention in the beginning... It just Is what it Is.

 

damn Brian, and I thought I was indecisive! LOL just keep the Hype R!

 

If you are really into cars, I would get the STi or Evo if it will not set you back too much financially.
I know all about the ITR and is significantly different but despite all the improvements I have done to my GSR, I NEVER got over the fact that it is a FWD. Also, having to **** rev the engine just to pass an SUV gets annoying fast.

 

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Like you, I considered both the STi and the EVO.

In the end, I decided to keep the ITR.

Neither car presents enough of a significant improvement in any venue to be worth spending the money on them if you already have an ITR. IMHO, of course.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What he said.

Kyle - who finally gave up and bought his leased ITR. Yeah, I like it that much.

 

Dude .... I don't quite understand your posts ......
I just read your post about the Ford Focus Cosworth ....... here is a snippet:

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"And....it will be priced several thousand $ more than the STI. It looks like the rally wars for us comsumers is off to a great start! But, the sad part for me is is although I bought an STI and love it, I've always loved the way a rally ready Ford Focus hatchback looks. Guess I love them big 'ol hatchback butts! lol"
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So basically you said you bought the STI. Why are you asking for our opinions on a car you already bought??

Don't make sence!

-Nick

 

Just curious why this thread says that you already bought an STI, https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=543153 . "And....it will be priced several thousand $ more than the STI. It looks like the rally wars for us comsumers is off to a great start! But, the sad part for me is is although I bought an STI and love it, I've always loved the way a rally ready Ford Focus hatchback looks. Guess I love them big 'ol hatchback butts! lol"

If you already bought the car then it would seem that this topic has already been decided for you. Either way both seem like great cars and I would be happy with either one.

 

He did not buy the STi. He still has his ITR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lost Motion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious why this thread says that you already bought an STI, https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=543153 . "And....it will be priced several thousand $ more than the STI. It looks like the rally wars for us comsumers is off to a great start! But, the sad part for me is is although I bought an STI and love it, I've always loved the way a rally ready Ford Focus hatchback looks. Guess I love them big 'ol hatchback butts! lol"

If you already bought the car then it would seem that this topic has already been decided for you. Either way both seem like great cars and I would be happy with either one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No no, I didn't buy an STI it was taken from I-club.

 

Buy an e39 540i. You can find low mileage 2000 example for $35,000. Fast enough, looks good and it's rwd.

 

you forgot to add "boring as ****" sean

 

I don't see what is the problem w/ the EVO interior. I actually like it. Its plain and simple and comes with great seats. I thought in a previous post you had mentioned that the STI seats weren't very supportive. I have yet to sit in the STI seats but I have sat in EVO seats.

Id say keep the ITR or get an EVO(EVO would be my choice over the STI as it seems to be a better car). I personally would keep the ITR even if I had enough money for an EVO. I love my ITR and the only way I'd get something else is if I kept the ITR <U>AND</U> bought something else. But thats just me as I plan to hopefully, oneday, just use the ARRR as a track ***** and have something else as my daily driver.

-Larkin who's keeping 97' #171 forever


Modified by EbboyPSi at 3:30 PM 6/23/2003


Modified by EbboyPSi at 3:44 PM 6/23/2003

 

If I were in your position honesly... having the fund to buy a new car and all.... I am in love with the RRRrr.. I will tell you right now, correctly modify your Type-R with some type of forced induction and you will "0wN" either of those cars hands-down.

I think they are great "performance machines" but 2 very important things.
1: Its not a Honda
2: They are not nearly as sexy and awe-inspiring as a type-r

Good luck, thats what I would do if I was faced with your delima (if thats what you call it )

 

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I think they are great "performance machines" but 2 very important things.
1: Its not a Honda
2: They are not nearly as sexy and awe-inspiring as a type-r

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those could be pros or cons, depending on how you look at it

 

I hate these "I'm a grown man but I can't make up my own mind," post.

 

Actually, it's a "dilemma".

As far as a turbo-charged ITR "owning" either the EVO or the STi...sure, until they turn up the boost. Then you're toast. Trying to mod your ITR to be a drag-racer to compete with factory boosted cars like these will be a wasted effort as soon as their owners sink an extra few bucks into these cars.

And why would you care anyway? Like I said before, you're not a street racer with big money on the line, or a sponsored dragstrip stud. So who cares?

 

He's something to add to the mix. I don't use my R for drag racing (I tried once but going straight kinda sux) or road racing cause I'm scared to mess up my daily driver. So I'm not using the R to its capablities at all. I rarely even go into Vtec cause lets face it, theres not to many places going over 5700 rpm is useful. The only thing I can do is tear around mountains but those are 30+ minuetes away from my house. Not only am I looking for a better car but a more versitile one too. Please don't get me wrong the only reason why I ask is because I do love my car that much and the decision to let it go is pretty hard but the ITR tactiblity is less and less everyday.

 

BTW, you will not get too many unbiased opinion here in the Integra Type R forum. Good luck with the sale though. If it weren't for thieves and living in SF bay area, I would buy yours right now.

 

I dunno about you guys but im thinking about a MKIV Supra TT for my next upgrade sometime in the future. RWD turbo, 6-speed... they handle fantastic, rare, timeless styling and are absolutely sick in the speed department. That or maybe a used nsx? Im not really impressed about all these awd cars coming out on the market, and it seems everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Just my 2 cents.

 

Apples and oranges.

2500 lb NA FF car = Type R

3300 lb Turbo AWD = EVO/WRX

I would get the STi - who cares if your friend has one?