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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 06:49 AM
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Well that didn't take long, I dropped my new 600 RR with only 12 miles on it.
The fairing is scratched, the lower cover is broken and scratched, the engine cover is chipped and scratched, the turn signal is broken, the pegs are scratched....and I don't know what else.

Yes this my first bike, and I expected to drop at some point, just not this soon.
Oh well, **** happens, I'll keep riding (after my leg heals, I've got a nasty limp right now!)
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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what were you doing? I dropped my bike last night when I was cleaning it Luckily, the ONLY thing that got damaged was the $50 alternator cover, lucky me.
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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I was driving down a side street and a car pulled out in front of me, I panic'd and lost control.......Everything happened so fast

I'm not going to ride it again untl I get full gear. It was just too tempting sitting in my garage........

It could of been worse, once I heal and get my gear I'll get back on
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Hey, you should get together with GeorgiaJDM and have a conversation about why people get beaters as their first bikes Seriously though that sux dude. yer not banged up that bad are you? That's the important thing - bikes can always be fixed (even if it's expensive) but you have to live in that body for (hopefully) a long long time. Anyway, good to hear you're going to get back on - here's wishing you better luck next time around
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Get some frame sliders for that beast.
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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So what is it like to have extra money to throw around?
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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heh yea I thought at first someone was making fun of GeorgiaJDM or something

may I ask why you went w/ a 600RR as a first bike?
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bunmango &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heh yea I thought at first someone was making fun of GeorgiaJDM or something

may I ask why you went w/ a 600RR as a first bike?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I went with the RR for my first bike because that is the bike I really wanted. I know it is not a good beginer bike, but I didn't want to make payments on something for years that I didn't really want. I was looking at it from a financial standpoint. I would rather pay $1,000 to fix a bike I really want, than put $1,000 into a bike that let's say I purchased for $2,500. I would still have to put money into fixing the older bike to sell or trade into a dealer. I also believe that the RR will hold it's value more so than the F4i.
This was my thinking at the time of the purchase, after messing up my new bike I still don't regret the purchase. I would be pissed if I had to put the money back into a beater, just to get some money back out of it. How many people ever make money on either a car or bike? (unless you purchased cheap and fixed up) I have had many hi-performance cars, and only made money on one of them.
Nobody ever said fun was cheap.

These are just some of my opinions, I appreciate your comments.
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get some frame sliders for that beast.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Frame sliders can't totally protect damage from minor falls like that right??
It'll just minimize the damage to say the fairing and inner parts?
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lucky925l &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I went with the RR for my first bike because that is the bike I really wanted. I know it is not a good beginer bike, but I didn't want to make payments on something for years that I didn't really want. I was looking at it from a financial standpoint. I would rather pay $1,000 to fix a bike I really want, than put $1,000 into a bike that let's say I purchased for $2,500. I would still have to put money into fixing the older bike to sell or trade into a dealer. I also believe that the RR will hold it's value more so than the F4i.
This was my thinking at the time of the purchase, after messing up my new bike I still don't regret the purchase. I would be pissed if I had to put the money back into a beater, just to get some money back out of it. How many people ever make money on either a car or bike? (unless you purchased cheap and fixed up) I have had many hi-performance cars, and only made money on one of them.
Nobody ever said fun was cheap.

These are just some of my opinions, I appreciate your comments. </TD></TR></TABLE>

While some of what you said is valid, I don't think you understand the point of getting a beater bike- if you get a beater bike and drop it, who cares? As long as it still functions that is. Say you drop it and scratch a fairing, scratch the stator cover, and bend the shifter. All you'd need to do is fix the shifter and then it's still rideable. That's why you get a beater bike- if you **** it up, it doesn't matter! You just keep riding it until you're ready to move on to a bigger/better bike. Anyhow, good to know that you've sorta got a level head, although on you for being a newbie and riding w/o gear hope that leg heals quickly
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fluke702 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Frame sliders can't totally protect damage from minor falls like that right??
It'll just minimize the damage to say the fairing and inner parts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Word. But they do minimize damage. They're definetly worth the value.

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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nerdish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what is it like to have extra money to throw around?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Seriously. Must be nice to be able to buy a NEW bike as you FIRST bike. I know I will drop the bike sometime which is why I bought a used one.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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i got pretty dinged up from lowsiding at 5 mph cause the bike landed on my, i was gimping for weeks. but now that i'm healed i still want to ride. my parents won't let me keep the 600 anymore cause they say it's too big, they said i can get a 250 and then progess up after i get good at riding. so i'm selling the 600rr and geting a aprilia rs250.

about buying a new bike. first off i wanted a fuel injected bike and just loved the looks of the rr, granted it's a lot of bike for a beginner. I just didn't want to buy a beater and then worry about not being able to get rid of it. I wanted my first bike to be bad ***. It's like buying a car when you first got your license, you don't want to pay 5k ford escort to learn on and then have to worry about selling it to buy a nice car, you want a nice car from the get go.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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GeorgiaJDM - If you couldn't handle a 600RR you definatly won't be able to handle an Aprilia RS250. Those things are pretty much street legal race bikes (as is the 600RR). They are tweaky and not good beginer bikes. Don't get me wrong, the RS250 is one hell of a ride, but you should get something easier to learn on for your first bike, like a SV650 or a GS550 - just something less flat-out race oriented. Good to hear you're thinking about getting back on the horse though
Bunmango - I totally agree with your statement. That is why people should get beaters as their first bikes...and why my first bike was a beater.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">about buying a new bike. first off i wanted a fuel injected bike and just loved the looks of the rr, granted it's a lot of bike for a beginner.</TD></TR></TABLE>
More than likely, you'd never know the difference between a carb'd bike or a fuel injected one. Chances are, you'd like the carb'd bike better anyway. Looks, well, can't fault ya there, but...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just didn't want to buy a beater and then worry about not being able to get rid of it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Now you have a brand spankin new beater and can't get rid of it. Beater's sell alot easier than brand new wrecked bikes. You'll lose more on the new bike, even if you DON'T wreck it, than you will on an older beater bike. chances are you'd make all of your money back assuming you didn't destroy it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wanted my first bike to be bad ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Most people do. If I wanted to wrestle alligators I wouldn't go jump in with a 13 foot lake monster simply because it'd be badass and look cool. I'd start with a little 2 foot toddler or a half dead adult.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's like buying a car when you first got your license, you don't want to pay 5k ford escort to learn on and then have to worry about selling it to buy a nice car, you want a nice car from the get go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
First off, paying $5000 for an Escort is retarded, lol. Second, we all know how a new car's value depreciates once you drive it off the lot. Used cars have already depreciated the most and you don't get pissed off if you get a tiny scratch. Again, it's like never having driven a stick shift before, going out and buying a Viper to road race.

However, like the Viper, you can get yourself into as much trouble with an Escort. People are too stuck on "lookin cool" than being smart. You can get into as much trouble with a 125cc street bike as you can a GSXR1000. WRIST CONTROL... SELF CONTROL.

If you can't control yourself on a 600 in gravel, then a 250cc bike isn't going to be any easier. It's just another bike to smash.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redtail &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GeorgiaJDM - If you couldn't handle a 600RR you definatly won't be able to handle an Aprilia RS250. Those things are pretty much street legal race bikes (as is the 600RR). They are tweaky and not good beginer bikes. Don't get me wrong, the RS250 is one hell of a ride, but you should get something easier to learn on for your first bike, like a SV650 or a GS550 - just something less flat-out race oriented. Good to hear you're thinking about getting back on the horse though
Bunmango - I totally agree with your statement. That is why people should get beaters as their first bikes...and why my first bike was a beater.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's not that i couldn't handle the RR. I rode 29 miles home fine, my second day out the tires were cold as **** and i was in the middle of a turn when i hit gravel. After experiencing the weight on my leg i'm kinda scared on the weight of the RR. Also i was vertically challenged on the RR. Slow maneuvering in the parking lot was ******* bitch and i almost dropped it then. I could tippy toe the RR with both feet down.

The RS 250 seat height is 29 inches compared with the rr of 32.3, I know for a fact that i can flat feet the 250 which is going to give me more stability and with 100 pounds dropped from the weight of the rr i'm pretty confident about handling the weight. As for wrist control on the 250, i can definitely do it... I'll buy the 250 used and will ride in full gear..
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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if I had the extra cash I'd go out and pick up one of those Aprilia RS50's... those look pretty neat. They seem really popular in the UK.

GeorgiaJDM, are you aware of all the maintenance required w/ a 2 stroke bike?
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by georgiajdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it's not that i couldn't handle the RR. I rode 29 miles home fine, my second day out the tires were cold as **** and i was in the middle of a turn when i hit gravel. After experiencing the weight on my leg i'm kinda scared on the weight of the RR. Also i was vertically challenged on the RR. Slow maneuvering in the parking lot was ******* bitch and i almost dropped it then. I could tippy toe the RR with both feet down.

The RS 250 seat height is 29 inches compared with the rr of 32.3, I know for a fact that i can flat feet the 250 which is going to give me more stability and with 100 pounds dropped from the weight of the rr i'm pretty confident about handling the weight. As for wrist control on the 250, i can definitely do it... I'll buy the 250 used and will ride in full gear..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't have the experience to handle the RR, the RS 250 is not going to be that much different in steering geometry since it's a race bike. Oh well, survival of the fittest. BTW, the RS will be even more expensive to find parts since it's a rarer bike.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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Heh, I was about to say the same thing.

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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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first bike: RR? more money than sense

first bike: beater? more sense than money.

its a simple equation.

1st day of riding: 80cc enduro

2nd day: 84 honda 400cc standard

3rd day: over the handlebars, gave my bro in law $100 for new forks. i think he bent them back and pocketed the cash.

...rode my friends shadow for a while, 4 years later took MSF, then got a new bike. rubber side down ever since.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bunmango &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

GeorgiaJDM, are you aware of all the maintenance required w/ a 2 stroke bike?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep...their internals wear fast as **** and the oil/fuel gets expensive, but i looked up a diagram and they are pretty simple to rebuild with little or no machining at all. I wouldn't put a lot of miles on it anyways, it'll only be a sunday rider and errand runner, more recreational than daily driver. Maybe a couple open track days for some experience and riding in a controlled enviroment with no hidden obstacles.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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Can you even register a 2 stroke motorcycle ?

I know a few years ago, RS250s didn't even come with kick stands.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Matt Sterbator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you even register a 2 stroke motorcycle ?

I know a few years ago, RS250s didn't even come with kick stands. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it's really hard to here in California, not sure about anywhere else though...
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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you get the aprilia 250's registered here in GA.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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remember that with a 2 stroke the powerband is alot different and will shock you at first. nothing like a 4 stroke. it like an OFF/ON switch. if you like the way the 600 rides on the street, youre going to hate the 2 stroke. its made to be ridden in the powerband and thats about it. if youre a freak like me then you wont mind the loud sputtering/clanking and smelling like burnt oil when you try to go and pimp some breezies. oh yeah kickstarters alway get attention...just dont stall in traffic...very embarassing. easy to push start tho.
good luck and stay safe
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