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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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Default Take a ride at the Rose Cup *vids*

I'll have more pictures and video shortly that I'll post here, but for now, here's a few laps with Scott. I still need to get the in-car tape from Victor and edit it.

Somewhere in about the middle of the race -- Right click, save as.... 6 megs
Second to the last lap. It appears Scott's tires are going -- Right click, save as.... 6 megs
Last lap. It appears Scott's tires are gone -- Right click, save as.... 7 megs
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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Goddam that's some cool video.
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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ITA is so slow... My in-car vids now look like they're in slow-motion...

Scott: You gotta help me with the 5-4 and 4-3 downshifts. That's just insane!

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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Very Nice Driving !
Props to you Sir!
I can feel the frustration from here. Been there (not in P1/P2, but close) and I know that feeling well. Thanks guys, for sharing.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Scott, that is some incredeble driving. just pure insane
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BluGTIVR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Scott, that is some incredeble driving. just pure insane</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uhm, No, you haven't seen the insane parts yet.

Scott, who cringes just thinking about seeing them again...thanks for the kind words you guys....
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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holy smoothness batman!!!!!

holy 0wnAge in the brake zones!!!!!!!!!!! what did you do, throw an anchor out the rear hatch?

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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Scott, that is some of the finest driving I have ever seen. I was really amazed at the power that Greg had out of the turns, and how much he was slowing you down elsewhere. I think it was pretty lucky for him that he didn't make a bigger mistake somewhere with as much pressure you were putting on him.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JHill &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... bigger mistake ....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bigger mistake? Did you say bigger mistake?

When John posts the rest of the laps I'll show you some Bigger Mistakes!

Scott, who's getting his sense of humor back...btw you guys, Greg's been racing a long time, is a really good guy, and I think drove really well under pressure...he's just the kind of guy you'd want to race against, I'm actually pretty lucky.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Bigger mistake? Did you say bigger mistake?

When John posts the rest of the laps I'll show you some Bigger Mistakes!

Scott, who's getting his sense of humor back...</TD></TR></TABLE>

We want to see some of the offs!!!
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
When John posts the rest of the laps I'll show you some Bigger Mistakes!
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I wasn't sure you wanted me to share those parts of the tape, but I will.
On a side note..... braking at the 200 marker on the back straight? .... ummmm ok. Got sack? I'm not sure how the car stays on the track. You just have to go through there at speed to know how it is. The video doesn't do it justice.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
On a side note..... braking at the 200 marker on the back straight? .... ummmm ok. Got sack?
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Yeah, I noticed that too. Gutsiest move I ever saw.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 02:18 PM
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What kind of motor does that VW have? I would like to see the same race but with a EG instead of a DC-2. I'm sure the VW is much lighter than the Type-R? Correct me if wrong.... Very nice vids by the way and great driving
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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VW's are not light...

even the GTI hatches are over 2900 lbs...

but i'm sure those VeeDubs and stripped down quite a bit
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Great videos. You put some pressure on that VW!

Did anybody else notice how fast that Porsche flew by? Holy ****!
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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Its nice to see that even though you are a very technical man (as shown through your in-depth "ramblings" about spring rates, etc, etc...) you are so smooth on-track! It just seems like most of the people with your mentality would be like:
"ahhh, depress clutch. Now move shift lever to next lowest gear. Oh gosh, now we have to match revolutions per minute here..."

You didnt need the clutch on half those downshifts!
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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Hats off to Scott for some very clean driving.

Scott, when you got the VW under braking at the first turn in the video I never expected to see him show up again. And with *no contact* as far as I can see. That's some good racing. But how'd he get there?

--Karl, who keeps watching the video over and over...
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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My pass on the inside under late braking was really marginal and carried me too deep so that I arrived at the chicanes left hander both slow and too early. Greg had an easy opportunity to aggressively come up outside me and threaten to pinch me. I knew he was there and rode the curbing rather than back off. On the way out his better pull did the rest of the job for him.

I'd say that I was overreaching with that move, and he was very strong on the counterattack. I've never raced against Greg head to head before, and had only heard that he was good. I'll admit to being surprised that he didn't cave after what I thought had been a decisive move, and as he went back by I realized that I had a tougher job on my hands than I'd thought. Then I proceeded to work harder and not smarter.

The subsequent laps are as much a lesson in how not to run a race as anything.

Where I am now mentally is "that was really good, and I learned alot." I think that Greg and I can do each other worlds of good this year.

Scott, has been whipsawed over the last week by the Joneses, Murphy's law, Joy, Dissappointment, Resignation, Renewal, and now I'm starting to get that manic excitement for the next race....
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Okay, by popular demand, here are the two "offs".

Off #1 Right click, save as. 2 megs

Off #2 Right click, save as. 3 megs
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Oh that sound....

Cool vids. Now if only you wouldn't have overcooked T1 after getting by the golf! Either way, I'm sure you had fun racing against another car with similar overall speed.

Did I mention I could listen to the soundtrack of the vids all day? Got anymore?
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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John,

There are actually 4 off's:

The Chicane gravel trap
The exit of the Chicanes Left hander
The Whoops on the exit of T6
The Curbing on the exit of T7

Scott, who still can't watch them at home...he's working on it...
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Those aren't as severe though. Or at least not as dramatic as the gravel and the "oops". Well, on second thought, T7 was a "oops" also. I'll spare you that one. These are enough. I'm mailing the VHS tape tomorrow.

PS. Almost have Victor's external stuff done. Just waiting on the in-car. I'll post a few clips of Victor soon.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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Great race Scott! The Golf definately motors on the straights.

I'm familiar with the lurid howl of the Toyos. They sound very angry

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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Warren,

Those are (were) new Hoosiers on my car.

Scott, who almost went out on Toyo's, but decided he wanted every available advantage...
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Hmm, well, that's even more impressive then. That's the sound of 2 dead hoosiers.

I'm sworn off them for life, til someone buys me a new set every weekend. Step right up. Any takers?

Hey, the gravel raining down from the chassis is always a super fun sound. I love taking a little bit of each track home with me.

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