Aight im new to this car stuff... So flame me if you must... But i have a few questions i cant find the answers too...

Ive heard that Honda didnt put B16A2s into DelSol Si'z until 94'... What did tha 93' Si'z have than... Im lookin to buy a 93' Si but i dont want to if it doesnt have tha horsepower... Or buy it and swap out the engines... But i need to kno:

What engines can go into a del sol... Any? Only 4cyl? Cuz ive looked at B16A2s... But if i can fit a v6... Than i want to go that way... Lemme kno if its possible...

Any suggestions on engines would be helpful...

 

Definately, go with the v6

 

I was more so wondering if a v6 swap was possible... By your response ill take it that it is?

 

Your best bet would be to get an integra motor b18c1(gsr) or b18c5(typer), or you could drop in a non-vtec b18b and run turbo. Any of these will give you good hp gains over what they stick in the del sol from the factory. Sorry all of these are 4 cyl.

 

Anything is possible with sufficient money. However, there is a point of sensibility that comes with this, as with all things in life.

All del Sols are as follows -

S......1.5 (1.6 in 96-97) SOHC non-VTEC. Lightest chassis, basic accommodations.
Si.....1.6 SOHC VTEC. All the nice accommodations, reasonable performance
VTEC 1.6 DOHC VTEC. The best OEM, factory B16A3 (B16A2 in 96-97).

B series swaps are bolt in. H series go too with minimal difficulty. C series (V6)......dunno.

Steve

 

To Steve...
Ahhh ok... So tha H series like H22A... Tha 2.2 Prelude engine is only a 4cyl... For some reason i thought it was a v6... OEM??

To SolSteeler...
GSR? TYPER? And you mean i cant put a turbo on a VTEC? What if i want both? Lol...

 

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GSR? TYPER? And you mean i cant put a turbo on a VTEC? What if i want both? Lol...</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can turbo a VTEC and any engine for that matter

GSR &gt;&gt; B18c1
Type R &gt;&gt;B18c5

For your car, get a simple LS/VTEC and it'll do the job.

 

Wow now its startin to make sense... So i could put a B18c5 with a turbo?

Anyone kno tha HP on each of these motors?
B18C1 compared to B18C5?
B16A3 compared to B16A2?
LS/VTEC?

Thanks again...

 

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Anyone kno tha HP on each of these motors?
B18C1 compared to B18C5?
B16A3 compared to B16A2?
LS/VTEC?

Thanks again...
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C1 - 170-180
C5 - 200-210
a3 and a2 both have 160-170

and if you want to turbo an engine, just get an LS motor (b18b) they are the best candidates for boost.
dont waste money on a R engine then boost it. they are made for NA, not a turbo.

 

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Yes, or a supercharger instead....

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Anyone kno tha HP on each of these motors?
B18C1 compared to B18C5?
B16A3 compared to B16A2?
LS/VTEC?
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All power at flywheel (take off 15% for wheel hp)

B18C1 is 170 hp
B18C5 is 195 hp
B16A2 and B16A3 are both 160 hp. The B16A2 is the OBDII version, and was available in the 96-97 del Sol VTEC and the 99-00 Civic Si.

LSVTEC.....dunno....somewhere near GSR (B18C1)???

Steve

 

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and if you want to turbo an engine, just get an LS motor (b18b) they are the best candidates for boost.
dont waste money on a R engine then boost it. they are made for NA, not a turbo.

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Ok i see... But wouldnt i get alot more horsepower out of an R engine? Or am i under the wrong impression...

 

yes and no

you will probably make more HP per LB of boost you run with the C5 engine but a LS motor will handle a little more boost than an itr engine.

they are also ALOT cheaper, so you could fully build an LS engine with rods, pistons, fuel, a blockguard and still have money left over to have it tuned perfectly and run 15psi or so. all for the price of the ITR engine and a turbo kit.

and that will blow the doors off of any ITR engine.

 

The R engine is high compression, which tends to put a limit on the amount of boost you can run. In addition, the price differential between an LS (B18B) and the R engine is huge - for the price of the R engine, you could get the LS and most of a turbo kit.....and then be making more power than the R.

Of course, the B18C5 is a beautiful thing.....

Steve

[EDIT]Dammit.....just a couple of seconds behind ya Kamin!![/EDIT]

 

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******* dead*

 

(( Still tha same guy jus had to create a new name cuz it wouldnt let me post more than 5 times ))

Ok so if i got this right... The B18B with a turbo will cost less and produce more HP than the B18C5 right?

And it will also bolt right in... So if i did this swap... Ive read all the other posts about engine swaps and they need alot of other stuff to do it... If i were to swap to tha B18B with a turbo... Am i going to need anything else or upgrade anything?

 

no
a b18b with a turbo kit will run you about 4500-5000$
thats 500-1000$ more than an ITR swap

BUT it will make any ITR swap its bitch.

 

OMG 4500! How much HP do you think will come out of it?

 

dude 4500$ for an engine swap AND a turbo setup is good.

the ******* ITR swap costs 4000$

and HP probably 220-250

 

220 - 250... Thats not enough...

Could i run NOS? Or would it blow tha motor?

 

not enough?
dude you ever driven a 250hp civic?

and if you want more you are gonna have to build the engine.

and no you cant run nitrous with a turbo unless you have a bulletproof setup.

 

Ok i jus did a 1/4 Mile Calculator estimate off some website...

2400 lb car with 250 HP came up to...
12.3 seconds...

That sounds pretty nice...

 

uh no
its not gonna be that fast
probably mid/low 13's if you can get traction.

 

Aight im gonna make this post long cuz its not gonna let me post anymore after this one due to tha trial member...

If i got tha B18B with nos (no turbo) would it produce tha same horsepower or more? Good idea? Bad idea?

Is there anything i'd need to upgraded or any extra stuff i would need?

 

first
its nitrous
not NOS, nos is a brand. nitrous is what is used.

you probably wont make the same hp with nitrous, that would be the equivilant of a 100shot and thats alot on stock internals.

i hate nitrous. to me its a poor mans way of trying to make a fast car. i dont trust it. i dont like it.

 

Somebody's a bit agitated eh, Joe?

1/4 doesn't mean much. Is this your only car? Your going to want something reliable. Did you already buy the Del Sol? If not, consider an EG Hatch. The best hatch ever made IMO. Tad bigger but lighter than the sol. in the EG, you can build an LS/VTEC and have a pretty quick car, and have money left over to tackle the suspension. EG's when done right are sick autocrossers.