yeah i got a 00 si and i just bought a type r manifold. and im wondering how to do it. some say its just plug in and out. and some say i have to get a new something for it. is it really just un-install the oem and just fir the ITR manifold without buying or using anything else?

 

You dont need anything else but you do need to change over the studs and sensor from your si manifold onto itr one.

 

And get an IM gasket. While you may not tear the original taking the IM off, if you don't have it, the original will tear.

 

type r throttle cable and bracket if it did not come with it. its only about 30 bucks for both

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SymphonyX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">type r throttle cable and bracket if it did not come with it. its only about 30 bucks for both</TD></TR></TABLE>
He doesnt need it if he uses the SI throttle cable and bracket. You just cant use one or the other.

 

just curious whywould you replace your intake manifold on your 2000 b16a2 with the type r one? there isnt going to be hardley any difference. if you had a 1st gen b16 intake mani then i could see why you wold want to do it but the b16a2 mani and the b18c5 mani are almost identical

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nextelbuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just curious whywould you replace your intake manifold on your 2000 b16a2 with the type r one? there isnt going to be hardley any difference. if you had a 1st gen b16 intake mani then i could see why you wold want to do it but the b16a2 mani and the b18c5 mani are almost identical</TD></TR></TABLE>

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a b16 intake manifold is a b16 intake manifold the design hasnt changed much.

 

You don't need an ITR throttle cable/bracket.

1. Get a new intake manifold and throttle body gasket
2. Get a new two sided stud for the throttle body (1)
3. Get new two sided studs that connect the intake manifold and fuel rail (3)
4. If you compare the two intake manifolds, you'll see an extra plug next to the radiator hose plug. You'll need to buy something to completely plug that up
5. The ITR intake manifold also has a hole in the runner with two screws next to it. You have to block that off or your idle will be all out of whack.
6. If after the install, your engine is overheating at a stand still, then you got air in your coolant system and you need to have it flushed.

The reasoning behind 2 and 3 are that those studs are a bitch to get out to reuse.
Hope that helps.

 

well, if you look at the two manifold, the designs changes are very apparent. what looks "almost identical" to some is very different to most everyone else.

BTW, your stock fuel rail won't fit in the manifold all the way if you don't remove the black metal spacers from the fuel rail. you'll see. also get a tb gasket.

look at this picture. you can use your stock throttle cable and bracket easily. slide the bracket over one screw hole.yours may work perfectly being an SI, but for those who want to know for a base model civic....

 

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a b16 intake manifold is a b16 intake manifold the design hasnt changed much.
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wrong the 1st geb b16 intake mani is poorly designed in comparison to the b16a2 intake mani. a b16 intake mani is not just the same as all the other years. the 1st gens were poorly designed for airflow compared to the newer ones also the throttle body accompanied with teh 1st gen b16 is really small compared to the newer ones. now the b16a2 intake mani is quite similar to the type r mani the differences are so small its not worth teh labor and time to change it out except maybe the throttle body and thats about it. im just sayin from prior experience that i have gone through this before. i was just trying to save a guy some wastin time and effort for minimal performance. its like those single cam guys putting b16 throttle bodies on the SOHC . why?? the increase is very minimal.

 

you also will need new injector spacers from the type R manny... the B16 mannys rubber spacers wont work with the injectors, and you will have space... do pick up some of those from the dealership befroe you swap it over....

other than that it is a plug and play...

 

now i am intrigued about this spacer deal. can some one tell me about the spacer thing with the injectors between type r mani and b16 mani cuz i never had this problem at all.

 

They're going out of their way for this is what the deal is.

REUSE the, "spacer things." Just put them on top instead of the bottom. You'll know what I mean when you get to that point.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nextelbuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just curious whywould you replace your intake manifold on your 2000 b16a2 with the type r one? there isnt going to be hardley any difference. if you had a 1st gen b16 intake mani then i could see why you wold want to do it but the b16a2 mani and the b18c5 mani are almost identical</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry the ITR manifold is ported larger and provides a damn good upgrade. some people see 10whp from it.

while the manifold is off instead of replacing the gasket with a stock honda one
get a hondata intake manifold gasket. it keeps manifold tempratures down SIGNIfICANTLY. makes some more HP to suppliment the R manifold.

 

just get a type r mota

 

i second that

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
sorry the ITR manifold is ported larger and provides a damn good upgrade. some people see 10whp from it.

while the manifold is off instead of replacing the gasket with a stock honda one
get a hondata intake manifold gasket. it keeps manifold tempratures down SIGNIfICANTLY. makes some more HP to suppliment the R manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ditto.

 

k, I understand everything that everyone is saying.
one of the major parts is why hasn't any mentioned the IAT(i think thats what it is called) the sensor that goes in right in front of the throttle cable bracket?????????
the si's is mounted on the intake, but the ITR is mounted here

what do u guys do about this??
dont u need to get an integra sensor

 

very true u have to get creadtive with at vacuum hose and some imagination. it can work

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridreams &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't need an ITR throttle cable/bracket.

1. Get a new intake manifold and throttle body gasket
2. Get a new two sided stud for the throttle body (1)
3. Get new two sided studs that connect the intake manifold and fuel rail (3)
4. If you compare the two intake manifolds, you'll see an extra plug next to the radiator hose plug. You'll need to buy something to completely plug that up
5. The ITR intake manifold also has a hole in the runner with two screws next to it. You have to block that off or your idle will be all out of whack.
6. If after the install, your engine is overheating at a stand still, then you got air in your coolant system and you need to have it flushed.

The reasoning behind 2 and 3 are that those studs are a bitch to get out to reuse.
Hope that helps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There you go.

 

block it off?????
with what some gasket sealer and a piece of sheetmetal???

got any pics of your method

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AK94GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">block it off?????
with what some gasket sealer and a piece of sheetmetal???

got any pics of your method</TD></TR></TABLE>

block it off with the existing sensor in your b16 manifold, that matches the size hole in the itr plenum. not sure which sensor it is, but it's a perfect fit!


Modified by B16b2b at 6:59 PM 6/17/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AK94GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">block it off?????
with what some gasket sealer and a piece of sheetmetal???

got any pics of your method</TD></TR></TABLE>

hell you could stick a bolt in there if it fits. a piece of sheetmetal and some type of sealant that would hold it down would work.

 

Hey bro, it's really simple. The injector o-rings need to be from the ITR. The b16 ones are too thin. I would recommend a throttle body gasket as well as the IM gasket, but I reused my TB gasket no prob. Just be very careful taking it off. As for the sensor I just left mine and used the stock one in the intake arm. You will need to T off your charcoal canister with your pcv valve hose or you will throw a code. To plug the extra coolant inlet get a small piece of hose, put a bolt in the end, and use hose clamps on both ends of the hose. Make sure you do not use the fuel rail spacers because your injectors will not seat properly into the injector o-rings. Any more questions feel free to email me.

 

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