Well, as some of you may know about my friend misshifting in my car a couple of weeks back from 3rd to 2nd. Anyhow...the problems that I was experiencing were scaring the **** out of me.
Anyhow..after finally getting a hold of a compression tester..and getting around to doing it.. I came back with some good results.
My car shot 180 all the way across....however the ONLY problem I saw with the car..was:

I took the #3 cyl. spark plug out and it was drenched in oil.(Would that of caused the hesitant power I was getting ...the problem I mentioned in my old post?)
Scared shitless as to why only that spark plug was all oiled up..and after inspection of everything..I saw that 3 of the inner valve cover bolts...were so loose..I could take them off with my hands.

Could that of been the reason why #3 spark plug had all that oil on it? How come the others were all dry?

Thanks again for all your help guys..and Im glad its not as bad as I thought it would be.

 

plug drenched in oil is definitely not a good thing.. I never saw your other post.. were you throwing any CELs? it'd be hard for the plug to make a spark when it's covered in oil, methinks.. that would definitely cause hesitation..

I personally don't think that oil would be from the bolts being loose. The inner ones are basically only supposed to be hand tight anyhow, which is not a whole lot of pressure (about 6-7 lbs).. I'm sure someone else will have a better explanation..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mstewar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">plug drenched in oil is definitely not a good thing.. I never saw your other post.. were you throwing any CELs? it'd be hard for the plug to make a spark when it's covered in oil, methinks.. that would definitely cause hesitation..

I personally don't think that oil would be from the bolts being loose. The inner ones are basically only supposed to be hand tight anyhow, which is not a whole lot of pressure (about 6-7 lbs).. I'm sure someone else will have a better explanation..</TD></TR></TABLE>whoa! now Im worried. What I am thinking happened is..with all of those three bolts that were loose..were causing leakage of oil into the area where the spark plugs sits. Cause my socket got oill all over it too..and when I took the spark plug out..I guess the oil..went down into the cyl. and all over the spark plug? I dont know..Im hoping nothing serious is wrong. The car sounds fine now..it was just that hesitant feelign I got that one time..and if the oil was indeed drenched in oil..and messing the spark up.. then...I think I fixed the problem..hopefully.

Also..note that..back in the day with my first integra..I got major water build up where the spark plug sat..and had to vacuum it out...cause it did the same hesitant feeling..so I feel a little confident.
Thanks for you help and knowledge

 

Pull your valve cover off, flip it over and make sure the rubber tube seal thingy, I can`t remember the name, is still on there. That would cause the problem you speak of.

 

when you say drenched with oil, was it wet above the threads or on the electrode side?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kkim &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when you say drenched with oil, was it wet above the threads or on the electrode side?</TD></TR></TABLE>on the electrode side too...however..I think it got wet with oil ( cause the car sat for 2 weeks..and I doubt it would be that wet)..when I took the plug out..cause there was oil resting in there. What is crazy..is would the oil resting in the spark plug area where plug wires go in..make it hesistant at times?
I hope thats all it is...Like I said..I had the same kinda problem with my integra before this one..and it was just water in the spark plug area.
Thanks again guys

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pull your valve cover off, flip it over and make sure the rubber tube seal thingy, I can`t remember the name, is still on there. That would cause the problem you speak of.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd bet this is your problem, it happened once to my prelude and I almost **** myself thinking I chunked a motor!

[edit- just to add, it was missing the gasket from one of the spark plug holes; on the bottom-side of the cover. Without the gasket, oil splashes in and fills up]


Modified by apexii at 2:42 PM 6/16/2003

 

well, if there was oil in the connection from the plug wire to the top of the plug, then that would probably cause hesitation as well, since it's trying to pass the current through there.

like vtecvoodoo suggested, replace those 4 rubber valve cover seals. That's just about the only place it would be leaking from.. and be sure to clean out all the oil from the wire and plug areas. Once you get it all back together, check it every couple days(when driving regularly) and see if it builds up again..

 

Thanks again guys..and ill definately do that.

gee...what would I do without you guys? *sniff,sniff * hehe

 

Replace your spark plug seals and your spark plugs. Clean up and do the compression test over. Make sure your car is up to operating temperature.

Don't let your tool friend drive your car anymore..

 

and i f u let him drive ur car again he isnt ur friend u guys are butt buddys

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg8b20turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and i f u let him drive ur car again he isnt ur friend u guys are butt buddys</TD></TR></TABLE>

-1% for completely useless post

 

hahahaha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00MRSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Replace your spark plug seals and your spark plugs. Clean up and do the compression test over. Make sure your car is up to operating temperature.

Don't let your tool friend drive your car anymore.. </TD></TR></TABLE>haha, its funny you say that..cause I did the first Cyl. at a cold startup...and it shot 150 at first..(the same is as my Girlfriends gsr) So I thought..ok it must be the gauge cause numerous of people have told me..different gauge all read different pressure readings. So anyhow, being that my car sat for 2 weeks....after doing the compression test on the first cyl. my battery was starting to go dead. So I started the car and let warm up for about 5 min. Then did it all over again..thats when I got the 180 all the way across the charts..
I just went to acura and picked up all four new spark plug valve cover seals..just to be safe..and will throw them on today or tomorrow..and see if this retifys my problem.

Thanks again guys...and good one Reid..hehee

 

Scale: Did you do the test at WOT? 180 seems low.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dawhiteboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Scale: Did you do the test at WOT? 180 seems low.</TD></TR></TABLE>yah I did, so you think that its low? hmmm, Im wondering..cause various people have said that different gauge will show different pressure..but to really look for consistent number all the way across..Everyone told me to be lookin for numbers around 180-210. Which mine were all around 184-85. Also..to be honest..come to think about it..I actually only warmed the car up for about 2 min. Cause I remember the temp gauge didnt even move yet. However valve cover still was luke warm..and compression shot up 30 psi just from the 2 min. warmup.
Ill do a compression test next time with the car fully warmed up.
Im just happy..Im getting consistent numbers across

btw, nice bio Dave

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScaleExtric &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yah I did, so you think that its low? hmmm, Im wondering..cause various people have said that different gauge will show different pressure..but to really look for consistent number all the way across..Everyone told me to be lookin for numbers around 180-210. Which mine were all around 184-85. Also..to be honest..come to think about it..I actually only warmed the car up for about 2 min. Cause I remember the temp gauge didnt even move yet. However valve cover still was luke warm..and compression shot up 30 psi just from the 2 min. warmup.
Ill do a compression test next time with the car fully warmed up.
Im just happy..Im getting consistent numbers across

btw, nice bio Dave
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Yeah, you should warm it up to normal operating temp. You do want little to no variance, but 4 cylinders at 0 have 0 variance so that's not the only thing that matters

and yes, the bio is nice.. I stole the idea from anyother member tho.. don't remember who.

 

would it have to do anything with the valve seals or valves being bent or piston ring damage ??? as to why he is geting oil on his spark plug ... p.s. why do i have low poiints as it is i would like to know

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg8b20turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would it have to do anything with the valve seals or valves being bent or piston ring damage ??? as to why he is geting oil on his spark plug ... p.s. why do i have low poiints as it is i would like to know </TD></TR></TABLE>not being a dick....but re-read the post..and you'll see why I had oil build up in there

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScaleExtric &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks again guys..and ill definately do that.

gee...what would I do without you guys? *sniff,sniff * hehe </TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm, saw an ITR this weekend with simliar issues, but in cyl #1...

like many said at the shop, suspected is the oil rings not sealing....not the compression rings.

 

185 is low, id check the valvelash also. A valve adjustment could net anywhere from 10-20 psi depending on how badly it was needed

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeadWrong &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">185 is low, id check the valvelash also. A valve adjustment could net anywhere from 10-20 psi depending on how badly it was needed</TD></TR></TABLE>well, Im not gonna do anything like that..til I do a compression test with the motor fully warmed up. Thanks for the info though

 

The ITR Soup mentioned is mine. Lots of oil was found on cyl#1 spark plug and the other cyl plugs were ok (well, white, so maybe lean).

We were doing a compression test. I had 210 in each cylinder.

The car drives ok. I will worry about the oil build up later.

 

My buddies plugs got fouled from oil leaking from the valve cover gaskets that go around the top of the plug shaft.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrpmek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My buddies plugs got fouled from oil leaking from the valve cover gaskets that go around the top of the plug shaft.</TD></TR></TABLE>yah I am almost positive as to what the problem is...all though I still have my fingers crossed