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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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Default Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims?

As title states, will the Mugen front brake set(caliper, rotor, pads, breaklines) fit 15" TE-37s? Mugen suggests using 16s but I have heard different stories. Please help........
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (PYMUGENITR)

I dont get it... what exactly are you paying $1300 for? Painted calipers, rotors/pads/lines?

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Mugen Active Gate Brake System

Mugen’s Active-Gate Brake System is a high-efficiency front brake system that provides outstanding braking performance and control at all times, even under the harshest usage conditions, such as circuit driving. With conventional brakes, the heat generated deforms the rotor and reduces pedal responsiveness and control. With the Active-Gate Brake System, the unique rotor cross-sectional design actively draws cooling air from the rotor interior. This revolutionary braking system minimizes heat deformation to maintain a responsive pedal touch


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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (.RJ)

Wow that didn't help at ALL!
Anyone actually have usefull input?
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:20 AM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (PYMUGENITR)

They are rebadged S2000 brakes - they need minimum 16" rims to clear.

NSX brakes fit under a 15" rim though - and are two piston instead of one and use a much thicker rotor.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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NSX brakes would be superior and cheaper?
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (PYMUGENITR)

cheaper yes

superior? i can't answer that - but replacement rotors will be cheaper. modulation is "apparently" better with a two piston setup as is pad wear (more even).

I just switched to the NSX setup and find braking MUCH better than before.


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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (PYMUGENITR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PYMUGENITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow that didn't help at ALL!</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PYMUGENITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone actually have usefull input?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, they will not fit under 15" wheels.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (PYMUGENITR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PYMUGENITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow that didn't help at ALL!
Anyone actually have usefull input?</TD></TR></TABLE>

ROTFLMAO
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (Big Phat R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cheaper yes

superior? i can't answer that - but replacement rotors will be cheaper. modulation is "apparently" better with a two piston setup as is pad wear (more even).

I just switched to the NSX setup and find braking MUCH better than before.

Modified by Big Phat R at 10:04 AM 6/10/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>

pics? im really interested in this set up.

would i need custom rotors?

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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I have pics to post - I will do it tonite

You use '94 Legend coupe rotors (same as NSX but cheaper) which are 28mm thick instead of the stock 23 mm.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont get it... what exactly are you paying $1300 for? Painted calipers, rotors/pads/lines?

http://www.kingmotorsports.com...ct=63

Mugen Active Gate Brake System

Mugen’s Active-Gate Brake System is a high-efficiency front brake system that provides outstanding braking performance and control at all times, even under the harshest usage conditions, such as circuit driving. With conventional brakes, the heat generated deforms the rotor and reduces pedal responsiveness and control. With the Active-Gate Brake System, the unique rotor cross-sectional design actively draws cooling air from the rotor interior. This revolutionary braking system minimizes heat deformation to maintain a responsive pedal touch


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OMG! I thought BMW aftermarket crap was expensive! I can get a 14" two piece rotor with 4 piston monoblock caliper BBK's for that much!

to any JDM-blingers that buy that chit!
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PYMUGENITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow that didn't help at ALL!
Anyone actually have usefull input?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes i'm posting after the lock, and i dont care.

The point was, I had never heard of this kit and was asking about it - maybe i missed something (i've been know to do that), because i was absolutely boggled at the cost of some re-badged stock parts, pads and lines.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (George Knighton)

I have a ring full of jello when you two are ready to throw down

A buddy had this setup, mugen brakes, not a ring full of jello, on his EG. I don`t think it stopped very well at all. I`d rather have a Fastbrakes Wilwoood Kit that I know will fit under 15`s.

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Will Mugen Brakes fit under 15" rims? (.RJ)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes i'm posting after the lock, and i dont care.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Great way to say "I'm a **** mod and I can do whatever the hell I want!" Sounds like someone just wanted to flame.

Thanks for reopening the thread, George.


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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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yey, now the pics can be posted.

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zyg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Noone mentioned the fact that the rotors are of a unique design that should help in cooling. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zyg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Noone mentioned the fact that the rotors are of a unique design that should help in cooling. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Usually when folks see prices like the Mugen brakes, nothing else matters
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Def &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OMG! I thought BMW aftermarket crap was expensive! I can get a 14" two piece rotor with 4 piston monoblock caliper BBK's for that much!

to any JDM-blingers that buy that chit!</TD></TR></TABLE>

A decent BBK with 2-piece rotors, just the rotor itself would cost over $400 a piece. Assume you get 2 of those ($800) plus SS lines ($200) and pads ($150), you're in 4-digit number already.

For the Mugen kit, although the rotors are not 2-piece, they have directional vanes. Not generic blank rotors. With everything you see in the pic: rotors + calipers + SS lines + pads, $1300 isn't *too* bad IMO.

Just save the hammer for yourself.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zyg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Noone mentioned the fact that the rotors are of a unique design that should help in cooling. </TD></TR></TABLE>

And they are lighter weight than a stock S2000 rotor.
The other factor is that the rotor diameter is larger than the stock ITR, and it's thicker.
Finally you are also getting really nice mesh lines and Mugen brake pads are super yummy.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zyg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want to WIN and value performance, ... the price never matters.
Hence the phrase: How do you make a small pile of money in racing? LOL!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

A decent BBK with 2-piece rotors, just the rotor itself would cost over $400 a piece. Assume you get 2 of those ($800) plus SS lines ($200) and pads ($150), you're in 4-digit number already.

For the Mugen kit, although the rotors are not 2-piece, they have directional vanes. Not generic blank rotors. With everything you see in the pic: rotors + calipers + SS lines + pads, $1300 isn't *too* bad IMO.

Just save the hammer for yourself. </TD></TR></TABLE>

seriously it's not bad at all, if it's 1300. i thought just spoon caliper is 1300 already.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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seriously it's not bad at all, if it's 1300. i thought just spoon caliper is 1300 already.</TD></TR></TABLE>
but spoon caliper is 4 pistons compare to stock s2k 2 pistons..
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITRbroham &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great way to say "I'm a **** mod and I can do whatever the hell I want!" Sounds like someone just wanted to flame.
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That wasnt the point at all. I was clarifying the point made earlier that i wasnt just trying to flame the mugen setup or the poster.

Sure i could have been more tactful in my original post but some of you guys get your panties in a bunch way too easily. Relax.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That wasnt the point at all. I was clarifying the point made earlier that i wasnt just trying to flame the mugen setup or the poster.

Sure i could have been more tactful in my original post but some of you guys get your panties in a bunch way too easily. Relax.</TD></TR></TABLE>

your supposed to set the example moderator
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sure i could have been more tactful in my original post but some of you guys get your panties in a bunch way too easily. Relax.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL - I think .RJ's new nick name should be

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