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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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I have an 89 Civic hatch with a D15B7, and I'm trying to pull the motor. Everythings ready except for the axles are still connected. I can't get the axle hub nuts off! I've already broken two breaker bars (i returned them; Craftsman rocks). I finaly borrowed my neighbors 3/4" drive breaker bar, and I fortunately haven't broken that yet. But all the same, they will not come off. I have already "unstaked" them like the Haynes manual said, but they aren't coming off. Any suggestions? I am planning on putting the engine into my 1G CRX (I already know the motor mounts won't match up), which means I would have to use the axles out of the Civic because the EW1 axles wont match. But the Civic axles are going to be too long because the CRX has a more narrow wheel base than the 4G!!! Any information on any of this would be greatly appreciated!!
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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have your friend stand on the brakes as hard as possible.... then get an impact wrench from the auto parts store plug it in and have fun.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Noah ***** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have your friend stand on the brakes as hard as possible.... then get an impact wrench from the auto parts store plug it in and have fun.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can do this if you really wanna but no need to all you do is take a peace of pipe and slip it over the braker bar which in turn extends the mecanical advantage now make sure your pushing down not pulling up because it will never work if your pulling up if this doesnt work get a setaline torch and heat the bitch up then use the braker bar with the pipe extension it will come off it is just a bitch without power tools
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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bust out the torch
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJ_SaNdOz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bust out the torch</TD></TR></TABLE>


I had the same problem with an old Acura Legend. The nuts would NOT come off. I borke 2 3/8" drive ratchets and one 1/2" breaker bar. I was using a 4' length of pipe over the handle which aided in making it REALLY easy to break tools. We even put penetrating oil on it and had no luck.

After the maddness, we tried heat. We set a propane torch on the axle nut for a few minutes and get it REALLY hot. Then we tried taking it off again and it came off rediculously easy.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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I am a fan of the impact gun... if you don't have one you can drive to one of your local autorepair shops and have them shoot them off for you. They souldn't charg you more than $5-10 to do it.

If you can't get that done use the torch, works well also.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJ_SaNdOz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bust out the torch</TD></TR></TABLE>
worked for my buddy
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Have the demons exorcised.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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Penetrating oil, such as WD40, is your friend. Use it or keep breaking bars... and make sure you use it as per the instructions.

I have broken two 1' breaker bars, both in interesting ways. I use a 4' extension now to get off axle end nuts But even with that 4' extension I couldn't break my brother's axle end nuts loose. It took a good soaking with WD40 to loosen them. After that soaking - crank, off they came.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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If you think axle nuts are hard to get off, you are in for a treat when it comes to getting the axles out of the hubs.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tilt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you think axle nuts are hard to get off, you are in for a treat when it comes to getting the axles out of the hubs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats when I HOLLA at da B.G.P.!


No axle stands a chance against the Big Gear Puller!
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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air compressor and impact gun do the trick.. u can get a nice setup for at home for around 250.... helps with alot of **** while doin a swap
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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My air compressor was like $200 and my Impact Wrench was $200. There is no bolt I can't get off with it. I love Impacts. And do do a lot of work on your car you really need one.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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hehe, nice. That's what we ended up using too.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FourthGenHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thats when I HOLLA at da B.G.P.!


No axle stands a chance against the Big Gear Puller!</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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get a thick pipe that'll fit over the ratchet/bar as long as you can find, like 5 ft. The weight of the pipe adds to its ease. Works everytime for me. Oh, and I know you probably know, but jic, counterclockwise
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Wow. I didn't think I would get that much of a response! All the other forums are just people being jerks. Anyways, I tried everything except for the torch, ended up taking a chisel and a drill to one side. Got it off after about 2 hours (including cooling off periods; i don't have too much patience...), and got my uncle to help me with the other one. With me standing on the brakes, a 4' crow bar against the ground (put in between two lugs), and a 3' cheater bar to a 3/4" drive breaker bar, we finaly got it off. My uncle is a hass, and he was standing on the cheater bar. Finaly. The axles weren't that hard to get off. The hardest part was taking the little pins out of the control arm bolt. Anyways, thanks a lot guys.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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lol saw this topic and thought i would add this............. this is when i was doing a swap on my EF............ a foking HUUUUGE PIPE!!! that axle nut didn't stand a chance.

Picture sucks... but it does the job ^_-

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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Home Skillet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have the demons exorcised.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Use a torch. that should drive the evil out of 'em
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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You don't need a torch or an impact wrench.

Get the longest pipe you can to go over your breaker bar.

Get a flathead screwdriver and put it between the vents in the brake rotor and the caliper. This makes it a one person job and nobody has to stand on your brakes with full force.

Spray the axle nut with PB Blaster and let it sit for about 5 minutes, then spray it again. This stuff works so much better than WD-40 and Liquid Wrench...I can't even begin to tell you.

Then just put all your weight on the breaker bar and you'll be good to go in no time!

I use this method all the time at the junkyard. I'm talking axle nuts that are almost welded to the hubs there's so much rust on them. It's never failed me! I can always do it alone and I'm a scrawny weak white boy. 135lbs!

Oh, and using this method I've never had to destake the axle nuts!!! Never!
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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if its that much of a problem just unbolt the bottom castle nut unbolt the tie rod and the castle nut at the top of the knuckle and the brake lines. and take the axel and knuckle out together and take them to a machine shop or any machanic. they will zip them off in a heartbeat for under 10$
remember to take off the caliper from the knuckle and leave it connected to avoid haveing to bleed the brakes.
solved.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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Air tool's are your friend, everything goes much quicker.

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