http://www.nasaforums.com

NOW IS THE TIME TO VOICE YOUR OPINION so that those who make the rules will hear what you have to say!

DO NOT PROCRASTATE!!!!!!

http://www.nasaforums.com under HC

It amazes me that more of you have not been over there!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOUR OPINION DOES MATTER IN THE NASA SYSTEM!

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chad
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Gotcha Chad.

Anyone else have a problem with their forum just kind of going non-responsive? Top page loads fine, everything else once clicked on, goes off into the weeds for me.

 

chad here...

i am having no problems posting and as i see neither is RJ (postwhore king)

 

Hey guys, I appreciate & I am sure the others do too, the discussion going on on the nasaforums site. Like Chad said, weigh in with your opinion. Many people asked for their voice to be heard. That is the place.

 

I'll check it out tomorrow. Kinda too busy to deal with that stuff today.

 

My $.02 has been added.


Matt

 

I can't post for some reason "invalid-session"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't post for some reason "invalid-session"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you register yet? You must have registered & have a log on name.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicrr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Did you register yet? You must have registered & have a log on name.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the message I got when I tried to register.

 

yes, registered and posted before, but I can't get it to post from my connection at home, which is 56K AOL... Have posted from School w/ no problem..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't post for some reason "invalid-session"</TD></TR></TABLE>

a lot of brain-dead web apps try to track sessions by ip address, which breaks if there is a proxy involved. If this is the case, its broken for all 38 million aol users.

I'll have a look at it this afternoon. If this is the case I will have our web services people contact them and see if we can get it fixed. Given the attitude ryan showed here I'm not sure if he cares if 38 million aol members can use it or not.

quick fix: use an external web browser rather than the using IE from inside the aol client. see if that works. if the problem is using ip for session mgmt it will.

joel

 

Why does NASA group all of its race groups under "Pro Racing"? Anyone here getting paid?

 

LOL, I wish.

 

is the discussion directed towards racers?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because we both know that pages will load faster <u>inside</u> the client.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're utilizing the same software (IE)... its not any faster.

 

l0l!

 

AOL sucks!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XR4racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AOL sucks!
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Go wrap yourself back up in your window nets

&lt;----- own3d by gramps

 

Hijacking in progress...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(3)<FONT COLOR="red">AOL's Virginia servers cache the Known Universe (!)</FONT> on a periodic basis and can deliver pages from the Virginia servers usually much faster than an ISP that has to go all the way to the original server to get the page.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wouldn't you recieve this benefit from any browser connected to AOL? With either browser (inside or outside AOL's client application) the user types an address, which AOL's DNS tries to resolve (and uses the VA cache if available). Unless there is some tricky redirection involved in the AOL browser (which is very possible).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(1)Proprietary compression that the user has to go out of the way to disable, and which compression works so well that regular ISP are beginning to attempt to emulate it,

(2)Proprietary hard drive caching, which works so well that regular ISP are beginning to attempt to emulate it,

(3)AOL's Virginia servers cache the Known Universe (!) on a periodic basis and can deliver pages from the Virginia servers usually much faster than an ISP that has to go all the way to the original server to get the page.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was quite intrigued by what you had to say, so I investigated a little more..
http://www.google.com/search?q...utf-8

After reading the first few links provided, I hope my ISP does _NOT_ try to emulate these features..

On a dynamic content site, like a discussion board, do you really want a stale, cached page anyway?

It seems to me you might well be better off perusing the boards outside of AOL's compression and caching routines. I speak somewhat from ignorance, though, since I've never used AOL extensively. I do know that getting stale pages from the caching server at work ticks me off occasionally.

Oh well.. sorry for O/T

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MechE00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On a dynamic content site, like a discussion board, do you really want a stale, cached page anyway? </TD></TR></TABLE>
backbone servers/routers already do this, especially with overseas sites.
They are smart enough to know when a page has been updated since cached.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crack Monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wouldn't you recieve this benefit from any browser connected to AOL? </TD></TR></TABLE>

only if you configure the aol web cache as the proxy server for that web browser. By default most web browsers dont configure a proxy server. You also need to have an aol session open to access the aol cache from an external browser.

Using IP address to maintain session context is broken, according to both the W3C and the IETF. It breaks whenever a proxy server is used and it can also lead to "interesting" behavior when address translation is in use. The correct method is to use cookies either in the url or in the headers to maintain session state.

http://webmaster.info.aol.com/ has all the info about aol web access that web developers need to know

joel

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MechE00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

After reading the first few links provided, I hope my ISP does _NOT_ try to emulate these features..

</TD></TR></TABLE>

All of the big ones (earthlink, etc) are TRYING to emulate these features. Some of them even charge extra for this. Caching and compression work. In fact, its about the only way to make the web scale.

If you are getting stale pages from a web cache, either the web site or the web cache is broken. This may come as a surprise to some of you, but there's a lot of buggy software in the world.

joel

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JoelG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This may come as a surprise to some of you, but there's a lot of buggy software in the world.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know why, but that made me laugh out loud. Oh wait, it's probably because I write some of that software.

 

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Brian
-this whole conversation has been over my head