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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Default Falzen Azenis 215/45/16...... will they fit?

I currently run 205/40/16 Ziex without issue however I would like to run 215/45/16 Azenis instead is there a way to make them fit without rubbing?

BTW its going on a 93 EG HB.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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God help you fit that tire on your car. I wanted to run them, but I didnt want to go through all the work and have to worry about scraping up new tires. There def has to be a way though.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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theyll fit no problem..you might have minimal rubbing when turning hard if your car is lowered a lot though..have fun with em

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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STEALTHMODECOUPE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theyll fit no problem..you might have minimal rubbing when turning hard if your car is lowered a lot though..have fun with em

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Thats interesting. I have heard so many mixed results thats its unreal.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Falzen Azenis 215/45/16...... will they fit? (fastwanabe)

205 azenis are thick enough their sidewall is wider than most normal tires... a dude in the itr forum got 205's to fit on 15x8 volk te37's

you will experience sidewall flex with a rim 7 inches and smaller... maybe not so much if your rims are 8 inches wide or 7.5 even...

Why do you want such a wide sidewall.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 07:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">205 azenis are thick enough their sidewall is wider than most normal tires... a dude in the itr forum got 205's to fit on 15x8 volk te37's

you will experience sidewall flex with a rim 7 inches and smaller... maybe not so much if your rims are 8 inches wide or 7.5 even...

Why do you want such a wide sidewall. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not looking for a thicker sidewall, I'm more wanting a wider tire(something bigger than 205)
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Falzen Azenis 215/45/16...... will they fit? (fastwanabe)

I see alot of people runnin 215 in the back and 205s in front (FWD). I'm wondering what advantage this has, if any.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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the sidewall on my azenis blew out when the slightest bit of air got out of that tire and I made a hard turn the tire flexed and the rim kissed the sidewall and ripped it clean open...

Good luck going wider than your supposed to because I promise that is going to happen with these tires.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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215/45ZR16 fit without a problem on 16x7 40+ rimzzzz But my car isint dumpeed either. Just a slight drop.



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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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Well I bit the bullet and had the 215's put on and I like them. I did however had to roll the rear quarters and trim the bumper but no biggie. I also went drag racing and while I wasnt able to lower my time my 60' were dropping.
all launches were made @ 6k rpm's

@30 psi I was only able to get 2.2
@22 psi same 2.2
@15 psi I was able to pull 2.1

I need a lot of practice and I'm sure a 1.9-2.0 is possible.... too bad I only got 1 run in @ 15psi.

BTW.... am I suppose to do a burnout with these tires?
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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no. not on street tires.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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well, this wouldn't really apply to you since you have an EG but I'm running 215/45/16 Azenis on my EM1:

- +44 offset
- prokit and illuminas
- I bent where the clips up front and tucked the fender liner = no rubbing
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Falzen Azenis 215/45/16...... will they fit? (timberSi)

normal 215's should fit, but the azenis are wider than most tires. 205 azenis are wider than 205 kuhmos... etc..
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ovaltine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see alot of people runnin 215 in the back and 205s in front (FWD). I'm wondering what advantage this has, if any. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure but this set-up seems more suited for RWD.
An issue of of "SportCompactCar" a while ago featured a JDM DC2R with 205/50 on the front and 195/55 in the rear which they say are more popular to grip racers in Japan to have a much balance handling. Personally I have no experience with this set up but it kind of makes sense for FWD to reduce understeering.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC4_95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm not sure but this set-up seems more suited for RWD.
An issue of of "SportCompactCar" a while ago featured a JDM DC2R with 205/50 on the front and 195/55 in the rear which they say are more popular to grip racers in Japan to have a much balance handling. Personally I have no experience with this set up but it kind of makes sense for FWD to reduce understeering.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was going to say ALMOST the same thing. Wider tires in the front on a FF Car would seem a better setup.

As for the question at Hand... 215 45 16 is what Spoon puts on thier Car BUT I think they use spacers too. Another point that Someone brought up was that the Falkens are slightly WIDER than other tires. Maybe a 215 40 would work better if they make that Size. Normally you can run 205-45's with 16" with NO PROBLEM 215 45's will result in a taller Side wall which MAY rub a little.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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Well so far no problems as long as I dont hit a bump @ full lock. I did roll in the quarters and front fenders but I LOVE these tires, my best 60' has benn a 2.16 so let see if I could get that down some. I also had to cut and bend in the lip on the frame cause it was cutting the middle of the tire like a razor. Going around turn and braking are improved as well. these tires are worth every penny.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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I was surprised at the handeling of these tires as well I love them in the rain
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Falzen Azenis 215/45/16...... will they fit? (Spoond TEG)

I remember a discussion a while back where someone said that the 205/15" is actually wider than the 215/16"
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrewerHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I remember a discussion a while back where someone said that the 205/15" is actually wider than the 215/16" </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's right. My 205/50-15 Azenis are actually more than 215mm wide, however the 215/45-16 Azenis aren't any wider than the 205/50-15s.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the sidewall on my azenis blew out when the slightest bit of air got out of that tire and I made a hard turn the tire flexed and the rim kissed the sidewall and ripped it clean open...

Good luck going wider than your supposed to because I promise that is going to happen with these tires. </TD></TR></TABLE>
How did you do that? That's like . . . not even possible. What were you running, 5psi?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastwanabe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I bit the bullet and had the 215's put on and I like them. I did however had to roll the rear quarters and trim the bumper but no biggie. I also went drag racing and while I wasnt able to lower my time my 60' were dropping.
all launches were made @ 6k rpm's

@30 psi I was only able to get 2.2
@22 psi same 2.2
@15 psi I was able to pull 2.1

I need a lot of practice and I'm sure a 1.9-2.0 is possible.... too bad I only got 1 run in @ 15psi.

BTW.... am I suppose to do a burnout with these tires?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Azenis are not drag tires - they're intended for autocross and HPDEs. The stiff sidewall is very drag-launch-unfriendly.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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well I decided to sell the Azenis only because I noticed a big difference in acceleration between my 195/50/15's and my 215/45/16's. It's a pretty big difference too. The 215 were at least 1" taller than my 195's but I never would have thought they created such a difference. I will however purchase 205/50/15's Azenis and hope that they are'nt much taller than my 195's.


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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Azenis are not drag tires - they're intended for autocross and HPDEs. The stiff sidewall is very drag-launch-unfriendly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Azenis are not drag tires - they're intended for autocross and HPDEs. The stiff sidewall is very drag-launch-unfriendly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Aw, is someone on their HPDE/cone chaser pedestal?

Azenis work about as well as any street tire is going to at the drag strip. Plenty of people in the 1.9-2.0 area... including myself...

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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkyeC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Aw, is someone on their HPDE/cone chaser pedestal?

Azenis work about as well as any street tire is going to at the drag strip. Plenty of people in the 1.9-2.0 area... including myself...

Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I simply said the stiff sidewall is unfriendly for hard launches a the drag strip, and I can attest to this. They also tend to hop a lot when launching on an older car with worn engine mounts and suspension bushings.

I don't appreciate your tone.

Thanks.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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The sidewall is not that stiff at 20psi tire pressure.

My old worn out car didn't hop the tires much.

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