I have an extra headgasket laying around and I have been thinking of removing the middle layer to bring more compression. I know it's possible to remove the layer, but will the headgasket still seal after installed?

Also, about how much will this raise the compression?

Any help would be great, and also how do you go about removing the middle layer?

 

it would more than likely up your compression like .01% and wouldn't be worth the risk of having a leaky or defective headgasget. just get a higher quality thinner one... i think spoon makes one.

 

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At the risk of sounding like a complete moron, I HEARD that the Spoon 2 layer headgasket is nothing more then an OEM headgasket with removed layer. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I've heard of a good amount of people just using the middle layer alone. You have to prep it right though otherwise it won't last long. I think some guys mentioned using some sort of copper spray on it before using it?? I'm not too sure but do a search for headgasket or some sort. There is a bunch of threads about splitting the stock headgasket. Good luck

 

Thanks...I'll check the search real quick.

 

dude, dont mess with your headgasket, just buy a lower or higher compression headgasket, whichever way you're trying to go. Blowing a headgasket is WAY too big of a chance to take because of trying to mix and match.

 

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I will. You are. Don't look for compression in a head gasket. Mill the head or look elsewheres. Not even worth the risk.

 

there is nothing wrong with removing the middle layer, roughly 5 thou which is estimating .05 in compression

hell i have built a couple of b16s using only the bottom layer(black layer) and have never had a single headgasket leak.

one has roughly 35k miles on it, so no big issue

i trust stock honda gaskets more than any other

that is my input

BTW you can not add material back to a head when you mill it, i would much rather take it out of the gasket. the max i would ever mill a head is 20 thou and just for servicing and a mild compression bump

 

Exactly my point. Not really worth the mild compression bump. Save up build the motor have a set compression point and find the piston, bore, head combo etc...to acheieve that. I am not a fan of milling heads or thing head gaskets really.

 

yeah i think it would be fine if you put copper spray on it, some guy at my school said he sprayed aluminum spray paint on the gasket on the motor he supposedly has, he said its re-usable, but i dont know id just stick with factory oem, maybe mill the head a little with a single layer head gasket, should be good

 

lip did that, ask him about how it lasted

 

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what happened?

 

I've done a couple of built motor without the middle layer and had no problem whatsoever. Just make sure you spray a good amount of copper spray.
Vic

 

i have never coppersprayed one that i took the layer. and i had no problems, copper spray can just build that layer back on as well as help with the sealing