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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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I took out the belt yesterday. I can feel the engine respones better. Just like adding 5-8hp to it. I can't feel any additional vibration during idle or rev to 8000rpm. Maybe I put on two Head Balancer from SEV. It helps to reduce engine vibration to increase hp. It works! It is very popular in japan. http://www.sev.co.jp

This is not my engine. It just a friend's f20b with SEV-HB.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:05 AM
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Ive never heard of a head balancer..

how much do they cost and are they proven to work or what?
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:19 AM
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Yes it really works. The SEV is very popular but also very expensive in japan. They have full line SEV products for intake, exhaust, damper, fuel line ......etc. The HB is a new released product from them. It cost 16,000 yen for one piece. I have two stick on the intake side of valve cover. The engine get smoother and acceleration also improved .
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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i need a fuel line damper, that damn 255gph walbro sounds like a freaking hairdryer in my back seat, i can't read japanese, so i don't know jack about what's on that site
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:26 AM
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What's the premise behind it? I certainly don't see much in that pic that might reduce vibrations . . . .
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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According to SEV,
Due to the heat dissipation action of the conical type metal inside the head balancer. The excessive heat which occurs during combustion is absorbed. It helps to release heat quicker. The effect are combustion efficiency substantially improved, engine become quiet and the engine response improves dramatically.
This is all I can tell you.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:55 AM
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so are those just weights or what? And how do you know where to put them?
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 08:00 AM
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Here's some babel fish translations:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Resistance between the dissimilar metal such as valve (potential dirrerence) you make lighten with the powerful ion effect which occurs from block itself. In addition, the excessive heat which occurs the case of combustion due to the heat dissipation action of the conical metal, is absorbed, metabolism of heat improves. With these two effects, it improves the drive efficiency of the mechanic of the engine head part. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The SEV disassembles the molecule of the oxygen plasma action (ionization) with, O - O - changes from O 2. So, the case where the oxygen connects with the fuel by doing, the oxidation heat quantity (output) loss can make decrease substantially. (By the fact that the SEV itself does the energy which was used in order to connect, it is possible. to make energy loss decrease substantially) In other words, the fact that the energy which is lost until now is utilized in kinetic energy was actualized. The oxygen (2 atoms) with the fuel (1 carbon atom) the energy which is necessary to the occasion where it connects with occurrence energy 383kcal oxygen molecular 1 (loss amount) the 117kcal </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The air the aggregate of the molecule (the high-molecular body) is similar to the iron and the water. As for this, " the air moves, friction (resistance) it occurs ", " the air to be quick motion (passing) doing when, it is well understood even from the general theory that air resistance becomes large ". When the engine turns at high speed, the mass air passes induction system naturally that much, but the part where the air does not pass in the wall accompanying of the inlet pipe with air resistance occurs at that time, the phenomenon where the air quantity which is necessary for combustion does not enter happens. The SEV succeeded in efficiently sending the air into the engine by disassembling the molecule of the air which becomes resistance. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Something to do with the ionization of molecules so they're more stable & freer flowing? Hard to tell. It looks like they use the same kind of thing to supposedly improve everything on the car - shocks, brakes, wheels, tires, ride quality, intake, exhaust, vibration, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Wish there was something in English on this.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugencl1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">According to SEV,
Due to the heat dissipation action of the conical type metal inside the head balancer. The excessive heat which occurs during combustion is absorbed. It helps to release heat quicker. The effect are combustion efficiency substantially improved, engine become quiet and the engine response improves dramatically.
This is all I can tell you. </TD></TR></TABLE>
So . . . . by putting this fancy sticker on the top of my engine it will dissipate heat more efficiently . . . which will make the engine quieter & reduce vibration?

[dr.evil]riiiiiight.[/dr.evil]

I'm pretty skeptical.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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Im removing my belt next week because its not on right and im sick of the horrible vibrations. plus i want some more power. so can you really feel a good gain?
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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anything wrong with removing the balancer belt, any engine damage caused in the long term effects????
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22a193 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anything wrong with removing the balancer belt, any engine damage caused in the long term effects????</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope . . . . it's just a comfort thing.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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This sounds like a crock of sh*t. Kind of like how cow magnets give you better mileage... or electric superchargers... or magnets in your shoes...

Oh and I call BS on anyone who's "Butt Dyno" can accurately read 5hp.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This sounds like a crock of sh*t. Kind of like how cow magnets give you better mileage... or electric superchargers... or magnets in your shoes...

Oh and I call BS on anyone who's "Butt Dyno" can accurately read 5hp. </TD></TR></TABLE>

from 2-4k rpm 5hp to the wheel would definately be noticable, on a prelude anyways...
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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lol thats funny ****
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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what are balancer shafts and how much do they affect your car if you tak them out? thanks
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