Tranny oil - which to use?
Hi!
In the near future I will be changing the tranny oil. Now, the Honda dealer/service guys told me they will put 10w40 motor oil in it but if I want that they can supply me with original Honda MTF fluid.
My question is: which fluid to use - motor oil Shell 10w40, Honda MTF or some other fluid cos I think it shifts a little bit slow. Does shifting speed depend on fluid or the tranny in general?
Thanks
KKVTi
In the near future I will be changing the tranny oil. Now, the Honda dealer/service guys told me they will put 10w40 motor oil in it but if I want that they can supply me with original Honda MTF fluid.
My question is: which fluid to use - motor oil Shell 10w40, Honda MTF or some other fluid cos I think it shifts a little bit slow. Does shifting speed depend on fluid or the tranny in general?
Thanks
KKVTi
I use dealership honda Synthetic Manuel Trans Fluid. Wither it's the best or not could go on forever. I also have friends that use standered 10-30. I can use the results to well as the friend blows motors and trans left and right but I've never had a issue on my end.
Honda MTF only costs you $5 a quart...and you only need three at most (tranny takes two and its good to have an extra around)...there is no real reason to put anything else in
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I switched from 10W30 to Honda MTF and it made a huge difference. </TD></TR></TABLE>
and i switched from honda MTF to redline MTL and it made a huge difference.
redline MTL = best for hondas IMO.
and i switched from honda MTF to redline MTL and it made a huge difference.
redline MTL = best for hondas IMO.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris y0! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and i switched from honda MTF to redline MTL and it made a huge difference.
redline MTL = best for hondas IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Really...sounds good I might have to try it out this next axle change. My 3rd gear is kinda nasty feeling right now, it grinds at anything over 7500rpm. Will the redline help that out any?
and i switched from honda MTF to redline MTL and it made a huge difference.
redline MTL = best for hondas IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Really...sounds good I might have to try it out this next axle change. My 3rd gear is kinda nasty feeling right now, it grinds at anything over 7500rpm. Will the redline help that out any?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Really...sounds good I might have to try it out this next axle change. My 3rd gear is kinda nasty feeling right now, it grinds at anything over 7500rpm. Will the redline help that out any?</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha. my third gear does that too. except it grinds after 6000 and wont even THINK about going in gear after 8500. i sux
Really...sounds good I might have to try it out this next axle change. My 3rd gear is kinda nasty feeling right now, it grinds at anything over 7500rpm. Will the redline help that out any?</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha. my third gear does that too. except it grinds after 6000 and wont even THINK about going in gear after 8500. i sux
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My 3rd gear is kinda nasty feeling right now, it grinds at anything over 7500rpm. Will the redline help that out any?</TD></TR></TABLE>
redline is like rogain. you keep the hair you have.
if you put redline in the tranny after you start hearing grinds, its too late, the damage has been done.
i don't know, try it, its only like an extra dollar per quart than honda MTF so what do you have to looe.
redline is like rogain. you keep the hair you have.
if you put redline in the tranny after you start hearing grinds, its too late, the damage has been done.
i don't know, try it, its only like an extra dollar per quart than honda MTF so what do you have to looe.
Cool thanks. I went to redlines site and couldnt find what I am looking for.
There is a company, **** it might be GM sycromesh, that makes an additive that cures grinding. I was thinking it was reline that makes it, but it wasnt listed on their site. I saw the stuff in the ITR forum, someone said it made their grinding 3rd gear go away.
There is a company, **** it might be GM sycromesh, that makes an additive that cures grinding. I was thinking it was reline that makes it, but it wasnt listed on their site. I saw the stuff in the ITR forum, someone said it made their grinding 3rd gear go away.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jolt-tsp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone used GM Syncromesh? I've heard it's pretty good stuff</TD></TR></TABLE>
I use to use this. I've heard it's the best of the best for MTF. Be it what you will. But it's more costly at our local dealers than the honda stuff so I just use the honda stuff. I use Honda MTF in my daily driver hatch and Syncromesh in my track hatch. Never had a issue with either type personally. Feels the same and when i've replaced it no excessive wear in the track hatch trans either.
For the bang for the buck honda MTF is more than just fine and dandy in my book.
I use to use this. I've heard it's the best of the best for MTF. Be it what you will. But it's more costly at our local dealers than the honda stuff so I just use the honda stuff. I use Honda MTF in my daily driver hatch and Syncromesh in my track hatch. Never had a issue with either type personally. Feels the same and when i've replaced it no excessive wear in the track hatch trans either.
For the bang for the buck honda MTF is more than just fine and dandy in my book.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is a company, **** it might be GM sycromesh, that makes an additive that cures grinding. I was thinking it was reline that makes it, but it wasnt listed on their site. I saw the stuff in the ITR forum, someone said it made their grinding 3rd gear go away.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It may be a friction modifier additive that is already in the fluid. Synchros need a certain amount of friction to work (the brass cone is pressed into the hub, as it does it will beging to spin at the same rate thus: synchronizing the gear and shaft and locking them together).
If the soft brass synchro ring is worn, it won't grab the hub on the gear and all that slipping will amount to grinding.
It may be a friction modifier additive that is already in the fluid. Synchros need a certain amount of friction to work (the brass cone is pressed into the hub, as it does it will beging to spin at the same rate thus: synchronizing the gear and shaft and locking them together).
If the soft brass synchro ring is worn, it won't grab the hub on the gear and all that slipping will amount to grinding.
I've always used, and liked, Honda MTF. I've used Redline MTL before. However my third gear grinds a little everytime I put it in over 2K RPMs. I'm really happy about this - oh well, what I get for buying a used engine
I think I might try Redline MTL, what else do I have to lose?
How long do you think it might be until my thrid gear is totally shot?
I think I might try Redline MTL, what else do I have to lose?
How long do you think it might be until my thrid gear is totally shot?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PupaScoopa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It may be a friction modifier additive that is already in the fluid. Synchros need a certain amount of friction to work (the brass cone is pressed into the hub, as it does it will beging to spin at the same rate thus: synchronizing the gear and shaft and locking them together).
If the soft brass synchro ring is worn, it won't grab the hub on the gear and all that slipping will amount to grinding.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Let me know what brand this is, if someone knows...
It may be a friction modifier additive that is already in the fluid. Synchros need a certain amount of friction to work (the brass cone is pressed into the hub, as it does it will beging to spin at the same rate thus: synchronizing the gear and shaft and locking them together).
If the soft brass synchro ring is worn, it won't grab the hub on the gear and all that slipping will amount to grinding.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Let me know what brand this is, if someone knows...
I've heard that third gear is the first to start grinding. Then it is just downhill from there. An entire transmission would more than likely be cheaper than replacing worn synchros now-a-days.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by p0rnstar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard that third gear is the first to start grinding. Then it is just downhill from there. An entire transmission would more than likely be cheaper than replacing worn synchros now-a-days.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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