Well, upon leaving the meet yesterday...I let my friend drive my car home to feel nice power a stock type R motor gives.
Upon him redlining 3rd gear...instead of him going into 4th...he went into second ...for about a sec or two....seein my rpms go past the number on a type R gauge cluster...I assumed my motor was DONE.
All though..we exited..and the car ran fine..just a little hummin noise if you barely gave it some gas..but if you put it in neutral..it went away.
Well..driving it today..I take the car out..and after driving it for about 30 min....the car now acts like something is holding it back.

Motor sounds strong however it just seems like the e brake is on....I have a 6 puck act clutch..and previously..if I were to ever let off on 1st gear..and then stomp on it..it would screech the tires...
Now doing the same thing..the car just seeems to bog.

I had a friend stand behind the car..while I took off in 1st gear..to see if I bent the valves or something...and between shifts...no oil smoke comes out.

Any idea as to what could be wrong???

Thanks for any help you can provide

 

hmm

seems like every week we get people here asking wtf is wrong with their engine when they redline/misshift.

so searching would answer your question.

your rods probably now look like 90 degree lassos.

 

thanks for nothing ********

 

i did that to my girlfriends car before and 4 of her exhaust valves were bent her guides were cracked and 2 of the bearings in her transmission wer all fucked up she had metal throughout her trans. needless to say she had to get a new clutch also.

hope your problem isnt as bad as hers was good luck

 

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while you may be very upset about your situation, please refrain from being a complete fucktard online.

i told you whats probably the case, and you get upset. thats just

if you check the last 2-3 weeks, this identical scenario has happened to other h-t members.

I'm not going to sugar coat the truth for you just because you allowed your friend to destroy your motor.

if you trust your inexperienced friend enough to drive your car, please be weary of the consequences.

one last thing i will suggest is, stop driving the car until you have a mechanic look at the damages. This is to prevent further damages to the motor.


Modified by Soup **** at 9:15 PM 6/1/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soup **** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

while you may be very upset about your situation, please refrain from being a complete fucktard online.

i told you whats probably the case, and you get upset. thats just

if you check the last 2-3 weeks, this identical scenario has happened to other h-t members.

I'm not going to sugar coat the truth for you just because you allowed your friend to destroy your motor.

if you trust your inexperienced friend enough to drive your car, please be weary of the consequences.

one last thing i will suggest is, stop driving the car until you have a mechanic look at the damages. This is to prevent further damages to the motor.


Modified by Soup **** at 9:15 PM 6/1/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>Listen, your analogy of my rods being bent is just ludacris..and that my friend sounds retarded to say..after hearing my problems that I am having that wouldnt even pertain to having bent rods. I know searching in matters of cosmetics, parts etc. However...explaining the problems that I AM occuring ...maybe a little different then what others have had. Please take your childish behavior somewhere else..as I am just troubleshooting as to what could be wrong with my car....nothing more or less

 

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if you trust your inexperienced friend enough to drive your car, please be weary of the consequences.

Modified by Soup **** at 9:15 PM 6/1/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>

He didn't say he was inexperienced in the original post. Hell Pete Cunningham went from 5th to 2nd in qualifying down here at Sebring just a couple of months ago and he is one of the best drivers in the country in the touring car class. Sorry, just had to side with him on this one

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EleanoR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

He didn't say he was inexperienced in the original post. Hell Pete Cunningham went from 5th to 2nd in qualifying down here at Sebring just a couple of months ago and he is one of the best drivers in the country in the touring car class. Sorry, just had to side with him on this one </TD></TR></TABLE>Thank you...as I would never let an inexperienced driver ...get behind the wheel of a car that i have dumped alot of money into..considering the motor alone cost 5,000.00 buckaru's
Accidents happen....and the way i look at it..things could be worst

 

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He didn't say he was inexperienced in the original post. Hell Pete Cunningham went from 5th to 2nd in qualifying down here at Sebring just a couple of months ago and he is one of the best drivers in the country in the touring car class. Sorry, just had to side with him on this one </TD></TR></TABLE>

inexperienced, as in, driving a type r...which is why he misshifted. and if your comparing his scenario with a RACE scenario, wow...

btw ScaleExtric, i dont care what the hell has happened to you. if you come into this forum with the attitude that your better than everyone else, and cant any comment that you dont like except by being a total *** of yourself,

just dont ask the question.

and i'm sure you've been destroying your motor driving around on bend valves, to say the very least.


and if you actually ever visit this forum, you'd actually see many a threads about misshifting and motors with holes in the block.

 

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inexperienced, as in, driving a type r...
</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHA, like driving a TYpe R is something only you knows how to do

Same as any other FWD car....maybe he just got a little too over zealous and revved too high

 

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HAHA, like driving a TYpe R is something only you knows how to do

Same as any other FWD car....maybe he just got a little too over zealous and revved too high</TD></TR></TABLE>

....which, would cause the misshift to send the tach past 11.

yeah, thats exactly what i said. only i know how to drive a type R. everyone else in the world are noobs.

you're pretty retarded. going out of your way to constantly follow my replies to give me grief. don't you have something more worthwhile in your life to do emerika?

edit: btw, its spelled AMERICA

Tom

 

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....which, would cause the misshift to send the tach past 11.

yeah, thats exactly what i said. only i know how to drive a type R. everyone else in the world are noobs.

you're pretty retarded. going out of your way to constantly follow my replies to give me grief. don't you have something more worthwhile in your life to do emerika?

edit: btw, its spelled AMERICA

Tom</TD></TR></TABLE>

Of late, I feel that the Type R forum has become an elitist forum. If you ask anything other than a really "hardcore" question, you get bombed for it. He asked a question, that is unique to him, not a "what wheels should I get" question, and he gets flamed for it.

If you dont have an answer to it, then please dont reply to the thread, its as simple as that. I cant say that I dont CONTINUALLY see you, Soup ****, flame people on this forum, as if your only purpose is to give people a hard time. Lets keep posts HELPFUL.

BTW: good luck on your problem, i'm sure a HELPFUL R owner will be on his way

 

for starters...do a compression check. If you have bent valves, etc, compression will vary greatly across the board.

My room mate did this4 years ago when he first got his ITR. Ended up bending a couple valves and got hs head rebuilt.

There could also be something wrong with your clutch with the high revs, and by throwing it in and out of gear so fast.

Last time I broke a tranny...it was a shifter fork and from shifting into gear too hard at a higher RPM. It could be a lot of things...try to narrow it down with the easiest things first. Start with compression test, then go from there

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soup **** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm

so searching would answer your question.

your rods probably now look like 90 degree lassos.</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=520887

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=157927

Heres some more "pro" drivers (probably making engine noises with thier mouthes while driving).
"Bwaaaaaaaaaaa....POW...bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......POW ...BwaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA AA AAAAAAA WTF happened?

Hopefully your buddy will help absorb some of the cost of the overhaul.

 

I never understood how people miss 4th gear

 

I'd bet on valve damage also since you mentioned the bogging off the line problem.

I've done what your friend did in my own car. It was not a fun experience financially.


Click the link in my sig to see what i mean...


.

 

If you're worry about bent valves.....a compression test may help (even best if you have old number to compare with).

As for the tranny, clutch, gear....etc. You probaby need to take the tranny down to inspect it.

The "only" good sign in your case is the motor still running. Anyway, I will take Soup's advice: not to drive until some extensive inspection.

 

Thank you everyone that helped me out with troubleshooting as to what problems I might be having.

Listen Soup: Im not trying to act better then anyone in anyway..not that I need to explain myself...cause most of the people on this board could tell you different. Im not gonna sit here and call you childish names..cause Im not a little boy. However for me to troubleshoot with some problems that "my car" is occuring ...from people I highly respect and trust there opinion is all Im doing..as I have help many others with there problems..without questioning "why didnt you search" I know how frustrating it is to have something you pore alot of money into break and not know whats wrong...
out of your numerous post and time you given this subject..I see only " 1 " useful comment about not driving the car..which I thank you for..however questions me why you go on a internet forum board..where people brainstorm any questions or problems or even knoledge they have.
I just think your attitude towards my concern about my car sucks..seriously..I mean a little respect towards someone you dont know wouldnt be asking for much..dont you think?


Anyhow..My friend that was driving my car..is a really close friend and has offered to buy me anything that is messed up in my car that is related to what happen.
Thankful to have such a good friend..as accidents will happen..were not robots

Thanks again guys so much for your help..I really appreciate it..

 

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Of late, I feel that the Type R forum has become an elitist forum. If you ask anything other than a really "hardcore" question, you get bombed for it. He asked a question, that is unique to him, not a "what wheels should I get" question, and he gets flamed for it.

If you dont have an answer to it, then please dont reply to the thread, its as simple as that. I cant say that I dont CONTINUALLY see you, Soup ****, flame people on this forum, as if your only purpose is to give people a hard time. Lets keep posts HELPFUL.

BTW: good luck on your problem, i'm sure a HELPFUL R owner will be on his way</TD></TR></TABLE>


this board is probably making people avoid easily answered somewhat, dumb questions jsut cus they dun feel like dealing with elitist dumbarse remarks from people.

 

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this board is probably making people avoid easily answered somewhat, dumb questions jsut cus they dun feel like dealing with elitist dumbarse remarks from people. </TD></TR></TABLE>I didnt understand a word you just said

 

The fifth to second misshift is often because of people pulling to hard on the shifter and they pull down at an angle, instead of making a precise shift from fifth to fourth, (down across and down). I've seen it happen to a couple of people. They are in the heat of the moment and do a very violent downshift by pulling really hard and they end up in second.

The only thing I never understand about these catastophe's is why people do not clutch in when they see the rpms shoot upward. When the needle is flying that fast in a downshift, you are in the wrong gear.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The fifth to second misshift is often because of people pulling to hard on the shifter and they pull down at an angle, instead of making a precise shift from fifth to fourth, (down across and down). I've seen it happen to a couple of people. They are in the heat of the moment and do a very violent downshift by pulling really hard and they end up in second.

The only thing I never understand about these catastophe's is why people do not clutch in when they see the rpms shoot upward. When the needle is flying that fast in a downshift, you are in the wrong gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>I know what you mean..however I was very lucky in this incident..My friend was pretty wise..and however I did see my Cluster go past 10k rpms..it wasnt in there for no more then even a second...when he abruptly pushed the clutch in immediately and we coasted off the highway. I couldnt imagine ..the damage if he would of just left the clutch out

 

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simply put... a lot of the elitist attitudes on here are probably making people avoid askign questions that are probably really simple but undiscussed because they don't wish to get ragged on. I don't see how it was so hard to figure that out from my original post...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">instead of making a precise shift from fifth to fourth, (down across and down).</TD></TR></TABLE>

When shifting from 5th to 4th, just pull the shifter down.

Because the shifter's "standard" position is between the 3-4 gates, there is no need to pull "sideways" unless shifting from 3-2 or 4-5.

 

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simply put... a lot of the elitist attitudes on here are probably making people avoid askign questions that are probably really simple but undiscussed because they don't wish to get ragged on. I don't see how it was so hard to figure that out from my original post... </TD></TR></TABLE>

you are only using the word elitist because you have heard it on here 100 times, another bandwagon member.

I wouldn't drive the car until you can open up the motor and see what damage has occured.

Chris - who notes that those who call this forum elitist don't do anything proactive to try and make the forum better, they just bitch constantly.