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New (?) method of removing stubborn 32mm axle nuts! Check this one out 4 sure!

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Old May 26, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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Default New (?) method of removing stubborn 32mm axle nuts! Check this one out 4 sure!

When I was replacing my axles last night i ran in to a problem getting the pass. side 32mm axle nut off. after pulling with all my might (that just turned the entire wheel!) and trying again with the brakes held down i was going nowhere fast as hell so i even tried bouncing on the 2 ft breaker bar with no luck.

so i sat there and stared at it and though, how can i apply more force to the bar.... then it hit me , my freaking hydraulic jack yo!

So i used the jack to push up on the end of the breaker bar, using the cars weight to loosen the axle nut, took about 2 pumps and crack! the nut was loose! I exclaimed PURE GENIUS! and continued with the rest of the job!

Any way thought it might be useful info, I'm sure someone has done this one before though!

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Old May 26, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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thats innovative, but good luck getting it back on. theyre torqued on there at about 150ft/lbs.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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HAHA, then i exclaimed "Pure Genius" LMAO!!! Nice method bro.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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I just put it back on as tight as possible with my 2 ft breaker bar... tight enough so that the brakes under full presure would even hold against my might! (car off though) i figured it should be enough to hold it just fine, probably more than 150 ft lbs though... my wrench goes up to 110 ft lbs or so only... i just tightend it as much as possible! wheels didn't fall off yet lol

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Old May 26, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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Default Re: New (?) method of removing stubborn 32mm axle nuts! Check this one out 4 sure! (Sketch_hs)

Good job...
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Old May 26, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sketch_hs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just put it back on as tight as possible with my 2 ft breaker bar... tight enough so that the brakes under full presure would even hold against my might! (car off though) i figured it should be enough to hold it just fine, probably more than 150 ft lbs though... my wrench goes up to 110 ft lbs or so only... i just tightend it as much as possible! wheels didn't fall off yet lol

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haha, nice. just pray you dont see any wheel's flying off the side of your car on the freeway.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Another easy way to do it is to slip a section of pipe over the handle of the breaker bar. This effectively extends the length of the handle, giving you more leverage.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another easy way to do it is to slip a section of pipe over the handle of the breaker bar. This effectively extends the length of the handle, giving you more leverage. </TD></TR></TABLE>

also a good idea! 4 u

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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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some of us would've just used good ol' fashion muscle to get the job done by the way the 32mm axle nut proper torque specs is 134 ft-lbs NOT 150 ft-lbs.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:52 PM
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I did the same thing
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Old May 26, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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Haha- I like the "Pure genius" saying, I've had a few moments where I was thinking the same thing.

I tend to use a piece of pipe over the wrench with someone standing on the brakes. Generally more than enough leverage to break the nut.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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if that nut fell off would your wheel really come off?? after all the nuckle isnt held on by it at all, the nut just connects the axle into the hub. so would the axle just flail around and destroy stuff?? anyone actually ever have this happen??
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Old May 26, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another easy way to do it is to slip a section of pipe over the handle of the breaker bar. This effectively extends the length of the handle, giving you more leverage. </TD></TR></TABLE>

My freind did that and broke the breaker bar
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Old May 26, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sketch_hs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So i used the jack to push up on the end of the breaker bar, using the cars weight to loosen the axle nut, took about 2 pumps and crack! the nut was loose! I exclaimed PURE GENIUS! and continued with the rest of the job!


-Sketch

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What do you mean you used the car's weight?? Can you elaborate on that part cuz it seems confusing.... I can only imagine that the breaker bar will still only turn the axles since the car is still off the ground. Explain that to me.. and others who can't get the picture, thanks.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by leprechan117 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if that nut fell off would your wheel really come off?? after all the nuckle isnt held on by it at all, the nut just connects the axle into the hub. so would the axle just flail around and destroy stuff?? anyone actually ever have this happen??
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The axle could possibly slide out of the tranny with enough force. But thats why you tq the nut down and then pinch it so that it cant turn off the threads. Trust me, I tq'ed it down and figured I'd test the car out before pinching it and the axle nut almost came completely off due to wheel hop. with no axle nut, hard enough turn/bumps etc anything is possible. Don't chance it.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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the axle nut coming off would not do anything at all, my ghetto *** boy ran his low 11 second hatch at etown with no axle nuts because he did not have anywhere to keep tools that night and he did not own a 32mm socket at the time,,,, 3 passes at up to 120 mph with no problem,,, and.... this is the best...... he drove 20 miles to englishtown on mickey thompson 24 1/2 inch slicks on 13"lensos!!!!!!!!!!! honest to god!! now thats gangster!!!!!!
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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ia good way to pop those 32mm;s off is to first punch out the lip that is usually puched in on the nut itself holding the nut onto the tip of the axle,,, that is prob why you were using all your weight on that thing and it didnt move,,,, then jam a screw driver into your rotor so it wedges between the disc and the caliper,,,, no need to step on breaks!!!! or pop off your center cap on your wheels with the car on the ground an hit the 32mm of the axles,, hope that helped
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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and i thought it was 36. nice job. liked the story.

i did the same thing when my friend's lca bolt would not come out. but seriously, but an air compressor and impact gun.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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i just use an impact .. and if that dont work i have a bigger impact , and if thas not enough we have one to torqe big truck lugs on with and i'm sure that will break it loose or break it off .. lol
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Old May 26, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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great idea, i'm gonna have to use this idea when i change out the driver side axle.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Good idea man.

Call me crazy but I just busted out with the torch for mine...just be careful not to burn your wheels.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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Take the handle off the jack and put it on the breaker bar. Works everytime. Good thinking with the jack though. I know exactly what your talking about. Also if you make sure to straighten out the indention that kinda holds in on and soak it with PB Blaster itll come right off. That stuff rocks.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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What do you mean you used the car's weight?? Can you elaborate on that part cuz it seems confusing.... I can only imagine that the breaker bar will still only turn the axles since the car is still off the ground. Explain that to me.. and others who can't get the picture, thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

car is on the ground, brakes in full lock
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Old May 27, 2003 | 12:55 AM
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also remove the dent in the old nut first did this (duh....) but was still having a hard time till I had my IDEA!

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Old May 27, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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last time i had to do this, i broke 4 breaker bars using the method of putting a big pipe to "" extend the breaker bar, its the only way i can ever get them, hell even half the time the impact wont touch them
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