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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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well I was wondering. since everyone who has a USDM 5 Lug already are pretty much trouble free in the US since they can get the USDM 32mm axles. well what about the people who get the JDM 5 Lug conversion who are stuck to using the JDM only 36mm axles which could only be obtained from overseas. well my main questions is could you just change the hub on the JDM one to the USDM one? and solve the problem of the JDM 36mm and therefore being able to use the USDM 32mm?

by changing to part # 5 and 6 which are the hubs will this solve the problem and allow the use of 32mm USDM axles? this has got me real stumped. any info or regards to this will be great.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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isnt there a prelude axle that has the 36mm? not sure if this helps, but im curious as well
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18c-rDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isnt there a prelude axle that has the 36mm? not sure if this helps, but im curious as well </TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe they might. but those axles won't fit with a B series swap. Still causing the same axle dilema.
...hopefully someones got the answer.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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yes, changing the hub(CTR or USDM ITR) will solve the problem, or use the JDM ITR axle(36mm)

i actually encouter this problem once with a JDM ITR 5bolt setup, and endedup changing to a CTR hub to solve the problem
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DB8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, changing the hub(CTR or USDM ITR) will solve the problem, or use the JDM ITR axle(36mm)

i actually encouter this problem once with a JDM ITR 5bolt setup, and endedup changing to a CTR hub to solve the problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

werd. that's what I want to hear. save me some trouble later if in turn this is a fact. thanks man . but it would be great if we got some more input from others to definately make just changing the hubs an option. comon guys
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Old May 25, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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comon someone else has to have some useful comments.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 05:36 AM
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hey i need a picture of the rear setup broke down like that! I also just did the JDM itr 5 lug up front but it came with the axles so i just bolted it all up and i was hoping if something broke that i too could just switch hubs.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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If you change the hubs out to the USDM Spec ones, yes you can run the 32mm USDM Axles.

Note: The wheel bearings on a USDM Hub Bearing may not fit the JDM Knuckle. I had a customer purchase the JDM conversion with the JDM Hubs and the USDM Bearings did not fit along with the hub. Still wondering if it was a legit conversion off of an ITR.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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my bro has the JDM 36mm 5 lugs swap..and it didn't come with the JDM 36mm axles so he spent 2 months serching for the right axles...went through lude/accord etc...the best is to use the stock axle(inner and the shaft) with the CRV (ones that has with b20 motor)outter thing (dont know what its called? haha) but yeah its a hassle...

hope this helps
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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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thanks guys anything helps at this point. just trying to figure my best alternative if I use the ITR 5lug brake conversion and not have any later problems.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you change the hubs out to the USDM Spec ones, yes you can run the 32mm USDM Axles.

Note: The wheel bearings on a USDM Hub Bearing may not fit the JDM Knuckle. I had a customer purchase the JDM conversion with the JDM Hubs and the USDM Bearings did not fit along with the hub. Still wondering if it was a legit conversion off of an ITR.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sup Len, being that you said that the usdm hub bearing may not fit in the jdm hub, well what if I changed to the full USDM hub and wheel bearing on a JDM set.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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I said that the USDM Hub/Wheel Bearing assembly may not fit with the JDM Knuckle.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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o damn. that means on top of needing to get the whole USDM hub/wheel bearing assembly I'll need maybe a USDM knuckle too. damn the total price just keeps going up if I use a JDM set. anyone have a USDM ITR 5lug for sale? lolz
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Old May 26, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by midnightdarknes5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">o damn. that means on top of needing to get the whole USDM hub/wheel bearing assembly I'll need maybe a USDM knuckle too. damn the total price just keeps going up if I use a JDM set. anyone have a USDM ITR 5lug for sale? lolz</TD></TR></TABLE>

Save money by buying GSR or LS Knuckles from junkyard. You can always sand blast them down and recoat them.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Benbuilt4u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey i need a picture of the rear setup broke down like that! I also just did the JDM itr 5 lug up front but it came with the axles so i just bolted it all up and i was hoping if something broke that i too could just switch hubs. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 27, 2003 | 05:43 AM
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Thanks for the picture!!!
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Save money by buying GSR or LS Knuckles from junkyard. You can always sand blast them down and recoat them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

is the rear trailing arm with the spindle the same? just the hub and rotor are different??
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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May not be exactly the same but yours can be used.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Benbuilt4u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

is the rear trailing arm with the spindle the same? just the hub and rotor are different??</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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ITR Spindle is different. 5mm longer for the wider track of the ITR . . . and it is something that can not be purchased without buying the whole trailing arm (here in the US at least).
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeff652 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ITR Spindle is different. 5mm longer for the wider track of the ITR . . . and it is something that can not be purchased without buying the whole trailing arm (here in the US at least).</TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah... dam why is everthing so difficult
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mike C &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">May not be exactly the same but yours can be used.

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please explain? so what do i need to complete Itr rear calipers rotors and hubs???
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I said that the USDM Hub/Wheel Bearing assembly may not fit with the JDM Knuckle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Will not is more appropriate.
JDM went to the larger bolt pattern 4x114 and 5x114 to use a larger wheel bearing(ie prelude bearing)
or so it says in honda literature. So even if you get a 96 spec the integra bearing
probably will not fit. CTR hub is probably larger to fit in the larger bearing while
retaining the smaller axle size.

FYI you should be able to just take a prelude outer CV and put it right onto an
integra axle. Pretty much all honda axle CVs are interchangable in this way.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Benbuilt4u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

please explain? so what do i need to complete Itr rear calipers rotors and hubs??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

any word on this question?
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLOW4drINTEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my bro has the JDM 36mm 5 lugs swap..and it didn't come with the JDM 36mm axles so he spent 2 months serching for the right axles...went through lude/accord etc...the best is to use the stock axle(inner and the shaft) with the CRV (ones that has with b20 motor)outter thing (dont know what its called? haha) but yeah its a hassle...

hope this helps </TD></TR></TABLE>


crv outboard joints (36mm) -----stock drive shaft-----stock 32mm inboard joint

is their a write up to this. i tried taking apart the outboard joint but it's stuck for some reason.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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here my jdm 5lug conversion rides great i used usdm itr axles wit no prob. for 2yrs now plus i run it at the track hard
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