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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Originally posted by hitechex
As promised here is the price for the kit. For most of you it is expensive but that is life. Good parts and good quality is what we are pushing. This motor, in street form makes more power than the Real Time RSX, for the world challenge series. And I bet their motors go for a whole lot more than what mine does. We will be manufacturing the first 10 kits ASAP. The only things left to be done is to finalize the new cam profile and the new intake manifold. Which will push the power to 280 whp. Realistically about 6 to 8 weeks before we have the kits ready to go. For those who are serious you can call me at (949) 581-2181 and we can answer your questions and take deposits.

Billet Connecting rods
Custom Wiseco Pistons with pins and rings
Chevy IRL valve springs and Ti retainers
8620 billet roller cams
New intake mainfold
Stainless racing header and 3 inch exhaust
Ported cylinder head with new stainelss valves
Custom intake with filter
Reflashed ECU.

Kit price 7,500.00</TD></TR></TABLE>

THIS **** IS GONNA BE HOT!!!
-Jalal

 

Thank you for sharing!!
A lot of people will get it with this price

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACURAmail.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thank you for sharing!!
A lot of people will get it with this price
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You being sarcastic or for real?
-Jalal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACURAmail.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thank you for sharing!!
A lot of people will get it with this price
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And add about $2000 for install/engine rebuild and another $500 for gaskets and misc. parts needed during a rebuild. Total will be $10,000

 

If you add up all the performance parts you would have bought to upgrade your car individually over the course of its ownership how much would it come out to be? Any other mods do not come close to what this n/a kit gives you in terms of power, relibablity and quality. Think of it that way.
-Jalal

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Originally posted by hitechex
Keeping the integrity of the kit.
All the parts are design to work together. If you change one variable like porting or exhaust or intake you take away the reason why we did the kit. It is to make it easier for you to get what you want with less expense and better performance. The average guy would spend a lot more to equal the performance that this kit provides.

Consevatively I would quote 1 week to install the kit and check the tuning, cost around 2,000.00 you drive it in and you drive it out. Done

Someone asked how much more it would cost to get to the 280 to 300 mark. I do not see much of an increase to get there. We are doing one more cam revision to see what is left on the table, along with some intake tweaks. And more fine tuning. We can also really help our cause by trying 100 octane fuel just to see how much it will help.

We also had the 3 inch exhaust on the car at the shoot out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
-Jalal

 

this is a steep price. the performance is great, but this price is unrealistic for most people. unless you go into serious credit card debt (dumb idea) or have sponsors willing to pick up most of the cost (smart idea) for your racing venture (fun idea). i will be waiting for other kits and/or parts to come out and inevitably reduce prices of such kits. right now they can charge this amount because you can't get a turn-key 280whp kit anywhere else for this car. just give it a year or two and there will be many more options for less cash and perhaps even more performance. cheers to hytech though for being the first to market with this incredible performance offer.

 

But how much will you spend on bolt ons otherwise? And still make less power?

For a tuned, inclusive package it really doesnt get better than this. If this was the path you wanted to take to make big N/A numbers you are paying for the R&D and expertise that went into the kit. If you dont want to make big N/A numbers and buy some wheels/tires, some mild bolt-ons, etc - thats fine too. Its all up to the individual.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by F1HONDA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is a steep price. the performance is great, but this price is unrealistic for most people. unless you go into serious credit card debt (dumb idea) or have sponsors willing to pick up most of the cost (smart idea) for your racing venture (fun idea). i will be waiting for other kits and/or parts to come out and inevitably reduce prices of such kits. right now they can charge this amount because you can't get a turn-key 280whp kit anywhere else for this car. just give it a year or two and there will be many more options for less cash and perhaps even more performance. cheers to hytech though for being the first to market with this incredible performance offer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Originally posted by hitechex
suspension set up
Progress Group did the prototype coil overs and sway bars. It actually rides very nice considering how well it handles. So far I have had not experienced any wheel hop problems launching the car. If I launch it at the right rpm I get a little wheel spin then it hooks up hard. You better have it pointed in the right direction when you stand on the gas, because it will go where the wheels are pointed.

When we get the final version of the motor combination done. I will get it to the track and see what it can do with a set of slicks. I assume that it will run some where in the 12's. Not bad with the stereo on and the air conditioning running and the spare tire along for the ride!</TD></TR></TABLE>
-Jalal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MJ23FE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you add up all the performance parts you would have bought to upgrade your car individually over the course of its ownership how much would it come out to be? Any other mods do not come close to what this n/a kit gives you in terms of power, relibablity and quality. Think of it that way.
-Jalal</TD></TR></TABLE>

Typical owner won't spend more than $7000 on the car including wheels and suspension. And what makes you think this kit is reliable and of high quality? It's the first time ever that Hytech is selling engine parts. I think a lot of RSX guys are new-bees and fell big time for Hytech's hype (which he's known for).

That dude doesn't make any of the **** himself! Wiesco pistons? crane cams? common now, Hytech is like 2 guys making headers and I have no idea how all of a sudden they're known for engine parts.

 

I hear what you're saying...I can certainly appreciate the cost for the time it took to develop the kit.

Personally, I haven't spent much at all on bolt-ons...most of them came free from R&D work/sponsorships for manufacturers. I realize most people aren't like that though, most have to pay. I just don't think people are going to shell out $7500 for this thing. I certainly wouldn't be the first one even if I did have the $7500. I'd wait for others to be the guinea pigs and see how well their motos held up. It's still WAY too early in the life of this car to jump at this offer. There will be others. Also, I am the type that learns to do things myself, so installations don't cost me an arm and a leg. Of course I will be paying a pro to do the internals when I'm ready for that. The real downside to paying all that money for all that power is that it's still a FWD.

If money was no object, I'd probably spring for the kit, however if that were the case I'd be considering a turbo for my NSX instead of this kit for my RSX.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But how much will you spend on bolt ons otherwise? And still make less power?

For a tuned, inclusive package it really doesnt get better than this. If this was the path you wanted to take to make big N/A numbers you are paying for the R&D and expertise that went into the kit. If you dont want to make big N/A numbers and buy some wheels/tires, some mild bolt-ons, etc - thats fine too. Its all up to the individual.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Typical owner won't spend more than $7000 on the car including wheels and suspension. And what makes you think this kit is reliable and of high quality? It's the first time ever that Hytech is selling engine parts. I think a lot of RSX guys are new-bees and fell big time for Hytech's hype (which he's known for).

That dude doesn't make any of the **** himself! Wiesco pistons? crane cams? common now, Hytech is like 2 guys making headers and I have no idea how all of a sudden they're known for engine parts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Most owners may not spend this much - thats why the kit wont be for everyone. They never said it was an easy installation either.

While i may not agree with hytech's business practices, his headers and exhaust speak volumes for their product quality. Its not just 'hype'.

The parts are made by weisco or crane using the specifications developed by Hytech and Endyn through their research and development. Its not like they picked a bunch of parts off a shelf and are selling it as a 'kit' with a huge price markup.

It seems to me you are lacking a fundamental understanding of how engine components work in concert with each other to produce the maximum gains, as opposed to picking up a header here, intake there, and cams somewhere else.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The parts are made by weisco or crane using the specifications developed by Hytech and Endyn through their research and development. Its not like they picked a bunch of parts off a shelf and are selling it as a 'kit' with a huge price markup.

It seems to me you are lacking a fundamental understanding of how engine components work in concert with each other to produce the maximum gains, as opposed to picking up a header here, intake there, and cams somewhere else.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Ok buddy, don't make ssumptions about my technical proficiencyand experience.
I've been building my own Honda engines for the past 7 years. Before that I was into VW's. So I am very familiar with how an engine operates.

And this supposed R&D these guys do? Did you know the Endyn piston is just a CTR piston copy made by Wiseco? And what piston R&D is Hytech doing that you mention? I've picked up a header from their Irvine shop and I didn't see any CAD stations or an engineering room where they design parts. An appropriate R&D facility is what companies like Greddy or HKS have.

 

What proof do you have to make these claims that parts are being copied and or thrown together? I've seen dyno plots and they dont lie.

Hytech and Endyn do not mass-produce products like greddy and HKS, their end result, customers, and products are quite different in nature and can be all custom tailored to your needs. SMS exhausts are the same way. Greddy/HKS can probably afford a more 'modern' R&D outfit because they arent tailoring their products to a particular customer and sell much more of them because they are cheaper and more readily available.

For w hat you get, this is a pretty good package. Could you do better? Probably... but you'd waste alot of time and money on figuring out which products work.

 

Hytech Kit vs. Stock

 

Speed = Money. I'm just happy to see a promising potential from building the K series. Good Job Hytech.

Hey Hytech What about the clutch/flywheel? Can the stock hold up? is there even more potential waiting to be unlocked there?

 

damn..........y so much?

 

exactly. if u were to do it over time it would be just as much if not more building it up over time if u want bigger numbers.

 

We are doing a similar kit soon. But way less money, that is alot of money!

That is a dynopack dyno, its numbers are about 10% more than a dynojet's WHP numbers.

So 260 on that is like about 224 WHP on a dynojet.

Jeff

 

it sound pretty good too!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ImportReview &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We are doing a similar kit soon. But way less money, that is alot of money!

That is a dynopack dyno, its numbers are about 10% more than a dynojet's WHP numbers.

So 260 on that is like about 224 WHP on a dynojet.

Jeff</TD></TR></TABLE>

If that's the case, the baseline number on a dynojet would be a lot lower too (around 150+ WHP, and 10% less on 260 is 234, not 224. ). So whether it's on a dynopack or dyno jet, the kit still give 80-90 WHP increase. I would say that is not bad at all for a NA engine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why so much money? Or why so much horsepower?

If you mean money, it's not that much for the horsepower. You're just doing it all at one time instead of spending the money piecemeal over time, so it looks like a lot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed

 

It's an impressive kit, and the pricing isn't out of line with the horsepower it produces.

But regardless, the purchase price of an RSX-S plus the cost of this kit adds up to over $30K. For $30K I'd buy a nicer car and leave it stock.

I can think of two in that price range that would probably still be faster than a hytech-equipped DC5.

 

Typically we read about 10 hp higher than a Dynojet on cars dyno'd back to back. Some cars with major alignment issues (like huge amounts of negative camber for road racing) will read larger differences thanks to larger rolling resistance on the Dynojet.

For example, a stock 2000-2001 S2000 (mine) read 202 whp on a Dynojet and 212 whp on my Dynapack. Another useful data point is that 250 whp on my Dynapack in a 1600 lbs car is enough to run very high 10s, 300 whp is enough to run 10.4s. I won't tell you how much it takes to run 10.0's cause that's still confidential :-) The Hytech K20 motor in a all-motor drag chassis has the capability of running 10.8's. If they get it to 280 whp, it would be able to go high 10.60's. Not bad for a pump gas engine.

C_A_T (where the Hytech kit was tested)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MK Ultra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's an impressive kit, and the pricing isn't out of line with the horsepower it produces.

But regardless, the purchase price of an RSX-S plus the cost of this kit adds up to over $30K. For $30K I'd buy a nicer car and leave it stock.

I can think of two in that price range that would probably still be faster than a hytech-equipped DC5. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Yep