Sad story about my R
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Sad story about my R
I was on the highway tuesday around 6pm, it was raining like a bitch and windy, so i'm going about 80-90kph, the same as all other cars. i drove under a overpath, as i came out the car just started going sideways i tried to control it but it wouldn`t stop, so i smashed my driverside into the back of a s10 pickup truck by then going about 100kph spun on the highway about 3-4 times and flew into the ditch, the police said it hydroplaned, the driver door carved in on me and i cut my face arms and neck, all from the drivers window shatering on me, So i saw the car again today, it needs a front bumper, headlight, rad, rad support my headers are fucked, 2 fender are gone door, winshield,1 rim, and the rear bumper and quater panel are banged preety good, and the dashboard moved. I had Flaken Azenis on the car which the cop said are not suppost to be used in rain, which i was told different, So he charged me with careless driving and 6 pionts. So i will have pics up tommorrow of the car
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Re: Sad story about my R (rated_r)
Sorry to hear that. Do you need parts like radiator, radiator support, side fenders and hood. I have them from my JDM conversion. I will sell them to you cheap.
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Although I would agree about the Azenis not being good in the rain, I'm not sure about the careless driving. If you can prove that the tires are DOT legal, and your speed was prudent, I would take that one to court.
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Re: Sad story about my R (rated_r)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rated_r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I had Flaken Azenis on the car which the cop said are not suppost to be used in rain, which i was told different, So he charged me with careless driving and 6 pionts. So i will have pics up tommorrow of the car</TD></TR></TABLE>
LoL at the cop. What an *******!
Oh, someone lied to you about the tires btw. I hope you don't think A032Rs wet traction tires too.
LoL at the cop. What an *******!
Oh, someone lied to you about the tires btw. I hope you don't think A032Rs wet traction tires too.
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Re: Sad story about my R (len)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
LoL at the cop. What an *******!
Oh, someone lied to you about the tires btw. I hope you don't think A032Rs wet traction tires too. </TD></TR></TABLE>
of course you'd have to use more caution with such tire in the rain, but to make any tire street legal, it needs to have certain amount of thread.. now.. the only purpose of thread is to provide traction in the rain.. or am i wrong somewhere along?
LoL at the cop. What an *******!
Oh, someone lied to you about the tires btw. I hope you don't think A032Rs wet traction tires too.
</TD></TR></TABLE>of course you'd have to use more caution with such tire in the rain, but to make any tire street legal, it needs to have certain amount of thread.. now.. the only purpose of thread is to provide traction in the rain.. or am i wrong somewhere along?
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Re: Sad story about my R (Ausmith)
Azenis are fine in the rain.
They are BAD in standing water, a little worse than most other tires are in standing water.
Regardless, very sorry to hear about your accident. Hopefully you are ok.
They are BAD in standing water, a little worse than most other tires are in standing water.
Regardless, very sorry to hear about your accident. Hopefully you are ok.
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Azenis are not really meant for the rain. These tires are good for dry surfaces and "can" be driven in wet surfaces but are not really recommended. You may be able to fight the cop on the" careless" driving ticket he issued you. Good luck with the ticket bro and hope the R gets back on track.
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of course you'd have to use more caution with such tire in the rain, but to make any tire street legal, it needs to have certain amount of thread.. now.. the only purpose of thread is to provide traction in the rain.. or am i wrong somewhere along?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't buy my Azenis because of it's performance in the wet, if that's what you're trying to get out of me. Granted my tires have been pretty good to me because it has enough tread thickness to channel the water out. But to advertise the Azenis as being rain tires, that's absurd.
Traction grades represent the tire's ability to stop on wet pavement as measured under controlled conditions on asphalt and concrete test services. As of 1997, the traction grades from highest to lowest are "AA","A","B" and "C". A tire graded "AA" may have relatively better traction performance than a tire graded lower, based on straight-ahead braking tests. The grades do not take into consideration the cornering or turning performance of a tire.
Azenis are Traction A.
of course you'd have to use more caution with such tire in the rain, but to make any tire street legal, it needs to have certain amount of thread.. now.. the only purpose of thread is to provide traction in the rain.. or am i wrong somewhere along?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't buy my Azenis because of it's performance in the wet, if that's what you're trying to get out of me. Granted my tires have been pretty good to me because it has enough tread thickness to channel the water out. But to advertise the Azenis as being rain tires, that's absurd.
Traction grades represent the tire's ability to stop on wet pavement as measured under controlled conditions on asphalt and concrete test services. As of 1997, the traction grades from highest to lowest are "AA","A","B" and "C". A tire graded "AA" may have relatively better traction performance than a tire graded lower, based on straight-ahead braking tests. The grades do not take into consideration the cornering or turning performance of a tire.
Azenis are Traction A.
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Re: Sad story about my R (rated_r)
sad to hear 
but how can a cop give you a ticket and charge you for ANYTHING if he did not witness it. I dont know about the laws from where you are from, but in LA, where im from, you cant get a ticket for what a cop did not see. Meaning after a accident they cannot write you up for speeding/reckless driving etc...
How do i know??? I got in a accident about 3 years ago w/ my old EG, cops showed up and said i was speeding and was going to get a ticket for speeding and reckless driving, i nicely asked the cop how he knew i was speeding if he was not present and I called the cops to show up??? he smiled and said "You're right, most people are not aware that we have to witness a violation to cite it"
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but how can a cop give you a ticket and charge you for ANYTHING if he did not witness it. I dont know about the laws from where you are from, but in LA, where im from, you cant get a ticket for what a cop did not see. Meaning after a accident they cannot write you up for speeding/reckless driving etc...
How do i know??? I got in a accident about 3 years ago w/ my old EG, cops showed up and said i was speeding and was going to get a ticket for speeding and reckless driving, i nicely asked the cop how he knew i was speeding if he was not present and I called the cops to show up??? he smiled and said "You're right, most people are not aware that we have to witness a violation to cite it"
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98itR484 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sad to hear
but how can a cop give you a ticket and charge you for ANYTHING if he did not witness it. I dont know about the laws from where you are from, but in LA, where im from, you cant get a ticket for what a cop did not see. Meaning after a accident they cannot write you up for speeding/reckless driving etc...
How do i know??? I got in a accident about 3 years ago w/ my old EG, cops showed up and said i was speeding and was going to get a ticket for speeding and reckless driving, i nicely asked the cop how he knew i was speeding if he was not present and I called the cops to show up??? he smiled and said "You're right, most people are not aware that we have to witness a violation to cite it"
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Granted there are no evidence. They can tell how fast you're going by skidmarks and other witnesses.
but how can a cop give you a ticket and charge you for ANYTHING if he did not witness it. I dont know about the laws from where you are from, but in LA, where im from, you cant get a ticket for what a cop did not see. Meaning after a accident they cannot write you up for speeding/reckless driving etc...
How do i know??? I got in a accident about 3 years ago w/ my old EG, cops showed up and said i was speeding and was going to get a ticket for speeding and reckless driving, i nicely asked the cop how he knew i was speeding if he was not present and I called the cops to show up??? he smiled and said "You're right, most people are not aware that we have to witness a violation to cite it"
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Granted there are no evidence. They can tell how fast you're going by skidmarks and other witnesses.
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Re: Sad story about my R (len)
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Granted there are no evidence. They can tell how fast you're going by skidmarks and other witnesses. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have to agee, and disagree, when i got into a accident, there were skidmarks from my car, and about 10 witnesses
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Granted there are no evidence. They can tell how fast you're going by skidmarks and other witnesses. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have to agee, and disagree, when i got into a accident, there were skidmarks from my car, and about 10 witnesses
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i never even drive my car in the rain but, it was a beautiful sunny day all da long and on my way home out of no where it started raining and it was windy other that i would have used those tires
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I have to agee, and disagree, when i got into a accident, there were skidmarks from my car, and about 10 witnesses
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Man if I ever need to kill someone, I'll make sure to move to where you are and do it. Just as long as the cops doesn't see me, I'll be alright.
Oh, I'm not trying to be a dick about the wreck. That's sad that you had your wreck. But **** happens, you have insurance, get another one. I had my first ITR wrecked and I wasn't even driving it and it was totalled. That pissed me off, but life goes on. We all do stupid things, just deal with the consequence. I'm pretty sure you can take your case to court. 6 points is 6 points too many if you ask me.
As for the tires go, I still use careful judgement in the rain with my new Azenis. I just don't trust them in the wet. When it rains, all I care about is getting from point a to point b safely.
I have to agee, and disagree, when i got into a accident, there were skidmarks from my car, and about 10 witnesses
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Man if I ever need to kill someone, I'll make sure to move to where you are and do it. Just as long as the cops doesn't see me, I'll be alright.
Oh, I'm not trying to be a dick about the wreck. That's sad that you had your wreck. But **** happens, you have insurance, get another one. I had my first ITR wrecked and I wasn't even driving it and it was totalled. That pissed me off, but life goes on. We all do stupid things, just deal with the consequence. I'm pretty sure you can take your case to court. 6 points is 6 points too many if you ask me.
As for the tires go, I still use careful judgement in the rain with my new Azenis. I just don't trust them in the wet. When it rains, all I care about is getting from point a to point b safely.
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Re: Sad story about my R (len)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I didn't buy my Azenis because of it's performance in the wet, if that's what you're trying to get out of me. Granted my tires have been pretty good to me because it has enough tread thickness to channel the water out. But to advertise the Azenis as being rain tires, that's absurd.
Traction grades represent the tire's ability to stop on wet pavement as measured under controlled conditions on asphalt and concrete test services. As of 1997, the traction grades from highest to lowest are "AA","A","B" and "C". A tire graded "AA" may have relatively better traction performance than a tire graded lower, based on straight-ahead braking tests. The grades do not take into consideration the cornering or turning performance of a tire.
Azenis are Traction A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no.. i'm only trying to figure out the legal issue, anyway, i'm pretty sure that any tire made street legal should work in the rain, how it will work is up to the driver and common sence, if cop wrote ticket based on the tire, and the tire had more than minimal thread required - then theres a chance to knock the points.. maybe take pictures to prove the tires are street legal and have enough thread. aren't they v rated? - there should be no problem running in the rain, not the worst tire for rain, but certaintly on the bottom of the list.
I didn't buy my Azenis because of it's performance in the wet, if that's what you're trying to get out of me. Granted my tires have been pretty good to me because it has enough tread thickness to channel the water out. But to advertise the Azenis as being rain tires, that's absurd.
Traction grades represent the tire's ability to stop on wet pavement as measured under controlled conditions on asphalt and concrete test services. As of 1997, the traction grades from highest to lowest are "AA","A","B" and "C". A tire graded "AA" may have relatively better traction performance than a tire graded lower, based on straight-ahead braking tests. The grades do not take into consideration the cornering or turning performance of a tire.
Azenis are Traction A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no.. i'm only trying to figure out the legal issue, anyway, i'm pretty sure that any tire made street legal should work in the rain, how it will work is up to the driver and common sence, if cop wrote ticket based on the tire, and the tire had more than minimal thread required - then theres a chance to knock the points.. maybe take pictures to prove the tires are street legal and have enough thread. aren't they v rated? - there should be no problem running in the rain, not the worst tire for rain, but certaintly on the bottom of the list.
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Re: Sad story about my R (SoCal ITR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SoCal ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If he was hydroplaning, where would the skid marks come from?</TD></TR></TABLE>
What skidmarks? LoL
What skidmarks? LoL
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Re: Sad story about my R (len)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Man if I ever need to kill someone, I'll make sure to move to where you are and do it. Just as long as the cops doesn't see me, I'll be alright.
Oh, I'm not trying to be a dick about the wreck. That's sad that you had your wreck. But **** happens, you have insurance, get another one. I had my first ITR wrecked and I wasn't even driving it and it was totalled. That pissed me off, but life goes on. We all do stupid things, just deal with the consequence. I'm pretty sure you can take your case to court. 6 points is 6 points too many if you ask me.
As for the tires go, I still use careful judgement in the rain with my new Azenis. I just don't trust them in the wet. When it rains, all I care about is getting from point a to point b safely. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think a traffic ticket is far less serious then murder
Why dont you call your local PD and ask them, if a cop doesnt see me violate a traffic law, and a witness tells him, can i get cited for it and see what they say
Man if I ever need to kill someone, I'll make sure to move to where you are and do it. Just as long as the cops doesn't see me, I'll be alright.
Oh, I'm not trying to be a dick about the wreck. That's sad that you had your wreck. But **** happens, you have insurance, get another one. I had my first ITR wrecked and I wasn't even driving it and it was totalled. That pissed me off, but life goes on. We all do stupid things, just deal with the consequence. I'm pretty sure you can take your case to court. 6 points is 6 points too many if you ask me.
As for the tires go, I still use careful judgement in the rain with my new Azenis. I just don't trust them in the wet. When it rains, all I care about is getting from point a to point b safely. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think a traffic ticket is far less serious then murder
Why dont you call your local PD and ask them, if a cop doesnt see me violate a traffic law, and a witness tells him, can i get cited for it and see what they say
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I think a traffic ticket is far less serious then murder
Why dont you call your local PD and ask them, if a cop doesnt see me violate a traffic law, and a witness tells him, can i get cited for it and see what they say </TD></TR></TABLE>
Where I live, you probably could. One time we were chilling at my friend's house and he was parked on the side of the road revving the **** out of his engine. Cop was around the corner, came towards us and cited him for wreckless driving. Went to court and they knocked it down a few points. LoL
I think a traffic ticket is far less serious then murder
Why dont you call your local PD and ask them, if a cop doesnt see me violate a traffic law, and a witness tells him, can i get cited for it and see what they say
</TD></TR></TABLE>Where I live, you probably could. One time we were chilling at my friend's house and he was parked on the side of the road revving the **** out of his engine. Cop was around the corner, came towards us and cited him for wreckless driving. Went to court and they knocked it down a few points. LoL
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Re: Sad story about my R (len)
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Where I live, you probably could. One time we were chilling at my friend's house and he was parked on the side of the road revving the **** out of his engine. Cop was around the corner, came towards us and cited him for wreckless driving. Went to court and they knocked it down a few points. LoL</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont have a arguement for that ....
Where I live, you probably could. One time we were chilling at my friend's house and he was parked on the side of the road revving the **** out of his engine. Cop was around the corner, came towards us and cited him for wreckless driving. Went to court and they knocked it down a few points. LoL</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont have a arguement for that
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Re: Sad story about my R (Ausmith)
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better then stock tires..
man sorry to hear that, ******* cops
better then stock tires..
man sorry to hear that, ******* cops