Well I finally got an exhaust. It's an Apex N1 for a gsr. Now I'm trying to deside on staying all motor and building the motor or geting a turbo kit. This is a 1995 4door Rs

So what do the ht croud think.

Please give input.

 

something that you should also post : how much you are going to spend, what power you are looking for. i would go turbo if i had the dough

 

the gist of it is turbos are high maintance, and N/a cost more to get alot of power, so its really on how much u plan on spending

 

yup nightmare is right.

turbo with no built motor = death
NA won't get you anywhere or any happier when you see the dyno sheet.

if you want to make ur car running good for the next 2 years or so, do it right and do it just once.

so if you have the money, build the motor and put a turbo and just boost all day long.

but with that setup you're looking at around $7500 like my setup.

fully built/bore out/port polish/blue printed/balanced/sleeved/turbo stuff.

if you got hookups you might even have left over money to change three major parts to new: water pump, fuel pump, oil pump.

oh and tuning will cost another $100~$300

just make sure you keep ur eyes on ur car once those things are done cause back pressure off a bov from an integra captures lotsa attention!

 

Well you haev an RS, I wouldnt build that engine up, buy a turbo kit, boost 5-7 psi you'll be fine, and if you want later you can build the valve train and bottom end up and boost higher, all up to you, but I wouldnt waste my $$ on tuning a non-vtec motor...

 

my bad forgot to read her box lol

guess i just wasted my precious 3 min heh

yup he's right

 

Turbo will cost you alot in maintenance.

Allmotor is the best way to go (in my opinion).

 

all motor....too many turbo'd Integras running around. all motor get's a lot more respect from people.

 

i feel that NA is the most challenging to build and drive..however if ur goin for speed and u want the power,just boost it. but if u dont build up the engine right and drive it kinda hard look forward to killin ur engine in about a year...my $.02

 

H22 will give you the power of a entry level turbo, and the reliabilty of a casual N/A. Cost about the same too.

Oh and you'll be different, sorta.

 

I would never buy a turbo kit in a stock GS-R due to its motor. The compression rate is too much for the motor.

 

Nitrous

 

I guess I shouldn't have turbo charged my JDM GSR since the compression is higher than the USDM version. Come on now! That's not a valid reason since there are way too many good ECU's on the market now. Low to mid boost(4psi~14psi) with mid to high compression(9.5~10.5 is much easier to tune than stupid low (less than 8.5:1) and extremely high boost (over 24psi). Mid to high compression turbo engines produce more usable low and midrange power which is what you need for a street beater.

 

Right on, Dee! That is just straight up false, mandeep. With proper tuning, a higher compression engine will be just as reliable as a lower compression one. What you said is a myth started out by people who did half-*** turbo installs and blamed it on high compression when it was probably their lack of tuning knowledge or just a lack of tuning PERIOD.
btw chickie, you shouldn't have bothered buying an exhaust until you knew if you were going NA or turbo.
High compression=bad for turbocharging is a MYTH!

 

Lower compression is better for a turbo motor..

Higher compression is better for N/A..

Its just a fact.. sorry to disagree.. but I'm sure many will agree w/ me

 

teg girl, check a different forum because everyone that replied to this post, clearly has no idea what they are talking about, do a search, and see what everyone is actually doing that works, because all these posts are completely wrong compared to the information i have gotten from searching, thats my opinion............

 

Many will agree because many believe the myth, because its "what they heard this one time" or its "what I was told by this dude" I once believed it too, then I went out and educated myself on the subject. It's all in the tuning, NA or turbo, tuning, tuning, tuning.

 

Im sorry this is just getting out of hand....yes if you're going to build up N/A OF COURSE high compression will be the way to go, but if you turbo a high comp engine with good tuning (not just some chipped ecu) you WILL see bigger gains from less boost, end of subject...

 

Nope.. most of us will not agree with you! Yes, 12.5:1+ compression for NA setups and ~9.5:1 compression is ideal for race setups but it will take a lot more money to build an NA setup that will beat a stock Honda compression Turbo with low to mid booost. We are talking about street cars and not trailer queens. I wish I would have ordered 10:1 pistons for my turbo setup because a LOT of mid range power can be gained at the compression ratio while still allowing me to run my projected boost level of 21psi.

Low compression turbo is good for the "tuning challenged" cruisers or for people who are having boost level wars!

 

It's responses like b16acivic90's that I have to stop and ask myself "why do I waste my time?" The moderators on this board do nothing to control what is put up here as fact or falsehood. Every time I have tried to share some of my knowledge on this board, its gets undercut by someone who claims it to be wrong or misleading, but usually doesn't back up that claim with any facts. Well, I'm going back to the site where I learned most of what I know today about cars, a site where false information is quickly discarded and only the truth is read. A site that the people who run it actually care that correct information is given, it is shown in the actions they take when misinformation is presented. That site is http://www.team-integra.net, I welcome all my fellow Teg owners to follow me. The truth is out there... cuz it sure as hell ain't here. Bye (T-I ID MrSwirly, say hi)


Modified by USDMDC2NH at 8:00 AM 5/18/2003


Modified by USDMDC2NH at 8:14 AM 5/18/2003

 

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Yeah.. some people like to generalize and others dont know what they are talking about... but seriously, i have read the most informative information about hondas and acuras ever, on Honda-Tech. Just because "teggirl" throws out a general "hey what do you think i should do, turbo or all motor?" question, doesnt mean no one here knows what they are talking about.

Seriously, teggirl, what are your plans. Do you want a reliable daily driver, or do you want something crazy and for the track. How much money are you working with. Do you plan on doing your own work? The answers to these questions play a huge role in answering your question of which is better, all motor or turbo.

I also find that the more knowledgeable people get involved in threads that are worth gettin involved in.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16acivic90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">teg girl, check a different forum because everyone that replied to this post, clearly has no idea what they are talking about, do a search, and see what everyone is actually doing that works, because all these posts are completely wrong compared to the information i have gotten from searching, thats my opinion............</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think my suggestion was pretty straightforward. I even gave the advantages. However if you wanted to keep it even more simple, you could just get a H23, then you don't have to worry about adding VTEC wiring, and it will probably be cheaper.