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Old May 16, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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i started my 93 2nd gen. integ today, reversed out of parking stall, put in drive, went like 100 feet and then it died. i'm sad. it cranks and the battery is charged. not throwing any codes. what can it be? i think it might be the fuel pump. where is the fuel pump located ina 2g integra? if you have any other tips, don't be shy and speak up. thanks
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Old May 16, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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can you describe any more details... kinda hard to get an idea of what the problem is. Any sounds... any previous instances of this type of malfunction? did you do any mods to the car recently? u got gas(not being sarcastic... start with simple things)?
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Old May 16, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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its on half tank. never had a problem. sweet integra. no mods getting ready to sell it and will be getting a 3g integra.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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try cranking it again and then take out the spark plugs if they are wet then you are getting fuel. If not then it may be the pump but you should be able to hear the pump when you put the key in the on position makes like a hiss sound and then it will click. it may be the ignitor in the dist. Heard this is ppular with 2g integras. Lastly it could be the ECU.


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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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timing belt?
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Old May 16, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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could be a loose distributor connection.

check that out first.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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here is your key. you need fuel/air, compression, and spark for the engine to run. your more than likely getting air. start with the simple things. take out a spark plug and hold it to the engine. have someone crank it over and check for spark. spark should jump across the gap of the plug. if you have no spark, then you know where to go next.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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whenever honda's crank and dont start, if battery and fuel levels are good, i always put blame on the ignitor module in the distributor. i've run into so many hondas where the ignitor module has died. shove a screw driver into the spark plug wire and check for spark.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Check for sprak. Pop the valve cover to see if the belt isn't broken.

I'm pretty sure you'll be able to tell what's wrong after that.

If you aren't getting spark, you might need to replace your distrib.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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ok i checked the fuel, its good. there is no spark. it died about 3 miles from miles house. i'm getting the tools and going to mess with the distributor. i will post the aftermath. what else should i check? some dude saied "timing belt" if hat broke i woulda heard somehing right? or noticed something strange. it just just stoped running like i turned it off while it was on. nuthing to weird happened. thanks.you guys are the bestest friends i've ever had.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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sounds like the igniter or the coil.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by burk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is your key. you need fuel/air, compression, and spark for the engine to run. your more than likely getting air. start with the simple things. take out a spark plug and hold it to the engine. have someone crank it over and check for spark. spark should jump across the gap of the plug. if you have no spark, then you know where to go next. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This used to be a good idea until someone found that fuel i still delivered. If you do use this method be careful, you could turn your car into a flame thrower tegs will start with 3 plugs and the fuel being shot into that 4th cylider has to go somewhere.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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i checked the distributor. i can't seem to open it up. there is a plastic shield under the cap. it doesn't look like there is a way to get it off. should i pop the valve cover to see if the timing belt snaped? there still isn't spark. i will toe it home to have a better look, instead of driving 7 miles everytime i want to try something. what else?
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Old May 16, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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You have to remove the distributor rotor first to remove the plastic shield so you can get access to the ICM and ignition coil.

Remove the valve cover. If the belt snapped, it won't necessarily be eventful.
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Old May 17, 2003 | 01:35 AM
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this is why i love HT... everyone is so helpful when u got car trouble. Good luck with solving your problem and i too think that it may be a distributor problem.
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Old May 17, 2003 | 06:49 AM
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the rotor seems a little stuck on. im going to pry it off. i'm going to take off the valve cover to check the timing belt. and then check the distributor today. hopfuly the teg will be running by today. thanks guys.
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Old May 17, 2003 | 07:26 AM
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If the rotor turns when you crank the engine... it's NOT the belt.

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Also... at least on the 94+ GS-R you have to have the rotor turned to just the right position (TDC?) in order to be able to unscrew the screw that secures the rotor to the shaft
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Old May 17, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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It's not advisable to crank the engine if the belt is suspected of being broken.

What if the a set of valves are at max lift? Maybe they'll clear. Maybe they won't.

Visual inspection is all you need.
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Old May 17, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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He already stated that he's cranked the engine... I would suspect that any damage that was going to occur would have already occured. If you're that worried about it simply turn the motor over (slightly) by hand. If the rotor moves @ all, the belt is still on.
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Old May 17, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brian_TII &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the rotor turns when you crank the engine... it's NOT the belt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This just happened to me. I had someone crank the engine with the cap pulled off. The rotor didn't spin. Timing belt. But before you do that. Pull your valve cover off and inspect the timing belt.
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Old May 17, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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you guys are great! you just saved me some work. the rotor rotates so it must be something with the distributor. thanks guys
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Old May 17, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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i just heard that the rotor would still turn if the timing belt snaped. is that true? should i check it? i hope its not too much time, i want to ride the car. how would i check the ignition coil to see if it works? thanks


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Old May 18, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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No, it's not true. The timing belt turns the camshafts. The distrubitor / rotor is turned off of the intake camshaft. I'm convinced that it's ignition problem at this point.
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Old May 18, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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One of the few problems with Hondas.... Coil and igniter. Hope you get your car going.
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Old May 18, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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i bought a new ignition coil and nope still doesn't start. i'm going to get a new module tomorrow to check that. if that isn't the problem, i'm going to cry. what else should i do? i'm out of ideas. keep the good times and tips rollin!
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