I bent my front sway bar on my ls integra. it is lowered wiyh kyb struts and neuspeed springs. should i upgrade? if so what should i go with, tring to stay under $300

i've seen some eibach that sold in pairs (front and back) but never heard any if there good or not

 

i would upgrade to an TypeR sway....but there are many different options...but i like my R one

 

First off, how did you bend it?

Second, if you are replacing it, might as well upgrade it to the ITR/GSR front swaybar. But only do that if you plan to run the ITR rear sway.

 

If indeed your sway bar is bent, you might have damage near the mounts or arms. I suggest having a look there first before dishing more money on aftermarket mods.

Cheers

 

eibach makes a good product.... never heard anything bad... i would do it if i where you.. and type-r ones would work too

 

maybe some skunk to sway bars but those might be costy

 

i hit a curb showing off, i bent my control arm when replacing i noticed the paint was chipping on the sway bar , now the nuts to the bushings to sway bar is broken (i think form being to low and these darn cincinnati streets)

 

also i've seen different sizes like 22mm and 19mm whats the difference? what is a good price for the gsr sway bars

thanks for the help

 

Go with the DC Sports sway bar

 

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Get either a GSR or ITR front sway bar. They are 24mm in size. But only do that if you plan to do the ITR bar in the rear as well. They work together.

I hear ya about Cincy streets, they just plain suck.

 

I have my stock LS front sway bar and associated hardware collecting dust, so IM me if you need a replacement.


A lot of the aftermarket sway bars are only rear bars, because that's where you're going to see big gains. The stock suspension on the non-Type-Rs is pretty de-tuned by making the rear is really soft. The stock rear sway bar is small, and the rear spring rate is only 117lbs/in, iirc.

The LS front bar is 22mm, the GS-R/Type-R bar is 24mm with ball-joint endlinks. Even if you get the Type-R <u>rear</u> sway bar (22mm compared to the LS'es 13mm), the stock LS front bar will be fine. With stock springs and shocks, the car will NOT be balanced towards oversteer. It just understeers less, but it's still not even neutral because the rear springs are so soft. Just because it's possible to get the car to oversteer does not mean that it's balanced to oversteer. You can make any car, regardless of it's balance, oversteer or understeer just by how you drive it.

But, be aware that the car came with so much understeer for a reason... the average driver really does not know how to handle a car (even though they think they do), and you don't want to give them more car than they can handle. Look at how much trouble people get into with just the stock suspension... just imagine if it weren't so de-tuned... I'd see Integras spinning left and right! Inexperience + race car handling == disaster.

You may benefit from the GS-R/Type-R front sway bar. The car may understeer a little more, but it's not really noticable to me. The main benefit is that it better links the front suspension... if you know what you're doing, you'll be able to push it harder before you max out the suspension. However, I really doubt you'll notice a difference for street use. It's also kind of hard to find a GS-R/Type-R front bar, or at least it was for me. I'm happy I got that bar, but I also use the full potential of the suspension. That's definately not something you do on the street.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have my stock LS front sway bar and associated hardware collecting dust, so IM me if you need a replacement.


A lot of the aftermarket sway bars are only rear bars, because that's where you're going to see big gains. The stock suspension on the non-Type-Rs is pretty de-tuned by making the rear is really soft. The stock rear sway bar is small, and the rear spring rate is only 117lbs/in, iirc.

The LS front bar is 22mm, the GS-R/Type-R bar is 24mm with ball-joint endlinks. Even if you get the Type-R <u>rear</u> sway bar (22mm compared to the LS'es 13mm), the stock LS front bar will be fine. With stock springs and shocks, the car will NOT be balanced towards oversteer. It just understeers less, but it's still not even neutral because the rear springs are so soft. Just because it's possible to get the car to oversteer does not mean that it's balanced to oversteer. You can make any car, regardless of it's balance, oversteer or understeer just by how you drive it.

But, be aware that the car came with so much understeer for a reason... the average driver really does not know how to handle a car (even though they think they do), and you don't want to give them more car than they can handle. Look at how much trouble people get into with just the stock suspension... just imagine if it weren't so de-tuned... I'd see Integras spinning left and right! Inexperience + race car handling == disaster.

You may benefit from the GS-R/Type-R front sway bar. The car may understeer a little more, but it's not really noticable to me. The main benefit is that it better links the front suspension... if you know what you're doing, you'll be able to push it harder before you max out the suspension. However, I really doubt you'll notice a difference for street use. It's also kind of hard to find a GS-R/Type-R front bar, or at least it was for me. I'm happy I got that bar, but I also use the full potential of the suspension. That's definately not something you do on the street.
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wow, thank you... i think u said everything i wanted to say. This is exactly why i hope to change out my front bar as well.

 

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wow, thank you... i think u said everything i wanted to say. This is exactly why i hope to change out my front bar as well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, and you said what i wanted to say too

 

back to the orig topic...what do you already have done to your suspension? that's going to make a big difference in your descision. also, are you sure the sway bar is bent, because it may be just the lca and some mashed bushings, if so they are easy to replace (well not easy to install, but much cheaper than a swaybar anyway). i would recomend acuracarland.com for factory parts (incl itr parts). talk to bretq about swaybars, hes the expert on here...he's also got a very informative website you should check out.
nate

 

have both sway bars installed

and have one really good rear strutbar so when you make a sharp turn the tail of the car will swing out and it'll feel like ur power slidin big time.

fun fun

 

um...yea!

 

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please don't!

 

dc sports suspension products =
itr suspension products =

 

geez...I didnt even know DC Sports attempted to make a sway bar.
DC is good for 2 things - JDM headers and exhausts. Even their short shifters snap.

Anyway --&gt; a GSR/ITR front sway and ITR rear sway is the near perfect sway combination for an integra. Even aftermarket bars dont really compete with how harmoniously these work together. I dont know one ITR owner that has gotten new sways (well, except a couple Mugen ****** ).

 

I think he meant DC Sports strut tower bar.

 

whoa back from the dead!

Later Integras (98+ I think, maybe 97 too) had the same 24mm front swaybar across the board. Only the earlier G3 LS's had the 22mm front bar.

 

go itr sways