K&N filter vs. CAI system
I was reading a post by someone who was saying the CAI systems are not worth it (as far as price goes), and just use a K&N filter in the stock airbox. Can anyone else vouch for him and confirm?
get a CAI, you will get better performance and more power. It may not be that much more power but every little bit helps. I'd go CAI. I think a lot of people will vouch for going CAI over K&N with the stock airbox.
I bought a cheapy short ram intake off of ebay for 30 bucks and have put a K&N on the end of it. The filter it came with was really cheap and kinda scared me to run it for very long. I am in the process of making a heat shield and running some ducts from the front of the car to the filter.
I really don't think a name brand intake is worth the money. The only thing nice is they fix correctly. I had to make some custom brackets for mine since it didn't come with anything.
I really don't think a name brand intake is worth the money. The only thing nice is they fix correctly. I had to make some custom brackets for mine since it didn't come with anything.
i can, i've been though a lot of CAI and short ram, AEM most, but now im using the K&N drop in, its the best! i like it alot better, work just like a icebox! i take K&N drop in over most of aftermarket intake out there!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sPaRk'iT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i can, i've been though a lot of CAI and short ram, AEM most, but now im using the K&N drop in, its the best! i like it alot better, work just like a icebox! i take K&N drop in over most of aftermarket intake out there!
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You are talking about the K&N drop in with a stock airbox, right?
What about a ITR airbox with a K&N drop in?
</TD></TR></TABLE>You are talking about the K&N drop in with a stock airbox, right?
What about a ITR airbox with a K&N drop in?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sPaRk'iT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, it all work the same, GSR,LS,ITR, and i am talking about the K&N drop in!
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What I am saying is there any performance increase with the ITR airbox? I know it comes with the little arm that drops down to your wheel well area.
</TD></TR></TABLE>What I am saying is there any performance increase with the ITR airbox? I know it comes with the little arm that drops down to your wheel well area.
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Just get a comptech ice box. Its quieter than the CAI, and IMO, CAI or even short rams sounds like ***. In that case, mufflers sounds like *** to me also.
If anything, get a apexi universal filter and stick it on the stock black elbow rubber thing. Apexi completly owns every singel filter out there. Even the HKS, BLITZ, AEM ect. Link below
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticl....html
If anything, get a apexi universal filter and stick it on the stock black elbow rubber thing. Apexi completly owns every singel filter out there. Even the HKS, BLITZ, AEM ect. Link below
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticl....html
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rick »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What I am saying is there any performance increase with the ITR airbox? I know it comes with the little arm that drops down to your wheel well area.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ITR uses the same airbox as all other Integras. The resonator assembly is different with non-R's drawing air from the engine bay, and R's drawing air from the fender well. I removed everything below my airbox and made a tube that draws from right behind the turn signal. I'm sure the setup is the same or better than a stock ITR intake. It cost me $10 to make the tube and $30 for the K&N RU-2820 filter, and I attached parts of a stock paper filter so it fits exactly like stock in the airbox.
What I am saying is there any performance increase with the ITR airbox? I know it comes with the little arm that drops down to your wheel well area.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ITR uses the same airbox as all other Integras. The resonator assembly is different with non-R's drawing air from the engine bay, and R's drawing air from the fender well. I removed everything below my airbox and made a tube that draws from right behind the turn signal. I'm sure the setup is the same or better than a stock ITR intake. It cost me $10 to make the tube and $30 for the K&N RU-2820 filter, and I attached parts of a stock paper filter so it fits exactly like stock in the airbox.
I have the same setup, a little louder, but the butt dyno tells me there is more midrange and throttle response is definetly better.
I used the E2427 filter.
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ITR uses the same airbox as all other Integras. The resonator assembly is different with non-R's drawing air from the engine bay, and R's drawing air from the fender well. I removed everything below my airbox and made a tube that draws from right behind the turn signal. I'm sure the setup is the same or better than a stock ITR intake. It cost me $10 to make the tube and $30 for the K&N RU-2820 filter, and I attached parts of a stock paper filter so it fits exactly like stock in the airbox.
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I used the E2427 filter.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ITR uses the same airbox as all other Integras. The resonator assembly is different with non-R's drawing air from the engine bay, and R's drawing air from the fender well. I removed everything below my airbox and made a tube that draws from right behind the turn signal. I'm sure the setup is the same or better than a stock ITR intake. It cost me $10 to make the tube and $30 for the K&N RU-2820 filter, and I attached parts of a stock paper filter so it fits exactly like stock in the airbox.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ITR uses the same airbox as all other Integras. The resonator assembly is different with non-R's drawing air from the engine bay, and R's drawing air from the fender well. I removed everything below my airbox and made a tube that draws from right behind the turn signal. I'm sure the setup is the same or better than a stock ITR intake. It cost me $10 to make the tube and $30 for the K&N RU-2820 filter, and I attached parts of a stock paper filter so it fits exactly like stock in the airbox.
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Any pics?
ITR uses the same airbox as all other Integras. The resonator assembly is different with non-R's drawing air from the engine bay, and R's drawing air from the fender well. I removed everything below my airbox and made a tube that draws from right behind the turn signal. I'm sure the setup is the same or better than a stock ITR intake. It cost me $10 to make the tube and $30 for the K&N RU-2820 filter, and I attached parts of a stock paper filter so it fits exactly like stock in the airbox.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Any pics?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Understeer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the same setup, a little louder, but the butt dyno tells me there is more midrange and throttle response is definetly better.
I used the E2427 filter.
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Can you reccomend a good place online to buy K&N filters? I am having trouble finding places with good prices. How much did you pay and do you have pics of your setup?
I used the E2427 filter.
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Can you reccomend a good place online to buy K&N filters? I am having trouble finding places with good prices. How much did you pay and do you have pics of your setup?
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ot the E-2427, it's way expensive, not as large filtering area as the RU-2820, does not have the rubber gasket around the neck like stock, and does not have the rubber tip at the end that fits in the airbox like stock.
Just buy an RU-2820 for ~$30 and attach it to pieces from a stock filter.
Search for the username BSQ and go to his site to see how it's done.
ot the E-2427, it's way expensive, not as large filtering area as the RU-2820, does not have the rubber gasket around the neck like stock, and does not have the rubber tip at the end that fits in the airbox like stock.Just buy an RU-2820 for ~$30 and attach it to pieces from a stock filter.
Search for the username BSQ and go to his site to see how it's done.
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Any pics?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have instructions for making your own "Icebox" CAI. You can go to my website at http://www.geocities.com/bretq/DIY_Icebox_CAI.html for complete step-by-step instructions (with pictures).
Here are a few pictures which compare my DIY "Icebox" to the Comptech Icebox.



Any pics?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have instructions for making your own "Icebox" CAI. You can go to my website at http://www.geocities.com/bretq/DIY_Icebox_CAI.html for complete step-by-step instructions (with pictures).
Here are a few pictures which compare my DIY "Icebox" to the Comptech Icebox.



Hey, I think you have a outlined a great DIY project (replica Icebox).....I am going to try to make one this weekend. I do have one question, however, the link from your website that describes how to attach the filter you used (RU 2820) to the stock elbow is down. K&N calls for a different filter (E-2427). The filter you used is much cheaper.......does it perform the same? What is the difference besides price? I just want to make sure that I get one that works and fits in there properly ........ as close to stock as possible.
Thanks
Thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pnthr30 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do have one question, owever, the link from your website that describes how to attach the filter you used (RU 2820) to the stock elbow is down. K&N calls for a different filter (E-2427). The filter you used is much cheaper.......does it perform the same? What is the difference besides price?
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The E-2427 is a direct drop-in filter that K&N makes for the '94-'01 Integra.
The RU-2820 is a universal filter that K&N makes that can be adapted to work in the '94-'01 Integra. The website that is listed on my website that shows how to adapt a universal K&N filter is no longer available. But all that is required is the removal of the filter material from the stock air filter so that all that you have is the stock black filter "elbow". The elbow is needed to attach the K&N filter to. I will see if I can either find some more information or take some more detail pictures of my filter and put up a webpage on the mod.
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The E-2427 is a direct drop-in filter that K&N makes for the '94-'01 Integra.
The RU-2820 is a universal filter that K&N makes that can be adapted to work in the '94-'01 Integra. The website that is listed on my website that shows how to adapt a universal K&N filter is no longer available. But all that is required is the removal of the filter material from the stock air filter so that all that you have is the stock black filter "elbow". The elbow is needed to attach the K&N filter to. I will see if I can either find some more information or take some more detail pictures of my filter and put up a webpage on the mod.
OK, here is website which illustrates what is required to adapt a univeral K&N filter to the stock filter elbow: http://members.tripod.com/dere...x.htm
i dont see how that is possible, the placement of the cai is much better than the stock air box. adding a higher performace filter isnt going to change the position of the air being taken in, which is the pupose of a cai isnt it? getting colder air from away from the motor. the K&N flter may increase the air flow. but a cai is increasing it even more, and taking in cooler air.
I have an AEM CAI on my R and I am thinking about putting the stock one back on so I can autoX in d-stock instead of STX, that is also a concern if anybody autoxs'
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