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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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1995 GSR with 56k (no p/s, no a/c)

Short ram intake with weapon R filter
DPR headwork
ITR tranny
JDM 4.785 Final Drive
Kaaz 1.5 way clutch type LSD
7lb. Fidanza Aluminum flywheel
Exedy street clutch
Stock GSR rim's
AEM gsr t-body
Koni compression/rebound/height adjustable shocks
Neuspeed race springs
ES Hyperflex bushing kit
Neuspeed front upper tie bar
Neuspeed rear tie bar
Comptech 22mm solid ITR rear sway bar
Eibach camber correction kit
Skunk 2 manifold
Mugen headgasket
ES Motor mounts
Apexi VAFC
Unorthodox Racing Pully

with those parts is it possible to run high 13's? if not what should I expect?:

2nd part of the question....add:
Toda Racing Header 4-2-1
Kakimoto R 70mm JDM ITR full stainless catback
Carsound cat

the reason why i seperated the parts is because the second set of parts I am not 100% sure I am going to be able to keep on the car. I just want an idea of what I am going to run at the track when I run it on may 31st.

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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (patdemps)

lo 14's to mid 14s with slicks.

I believe that you have to at least put down 175-180 to break into the 13's.

What do you mean by "ITR tranny with ITR 1-5th gears" doesn't an ITR tranny come with the 1-5 ITR gears ?

Just messen with ya..Just thought it was kind of funny

The setup sound like a good start.

As for the optional setup it is also a good start but you might want to think about at least some cams to go with your head. unless you plan on going FI sometime down the road.


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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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No, it wont' run 13's. You're going to have to add some cams in there to hit 13's.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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gut it
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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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turbo that beyatch
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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (patdemps)

Go to the track. That will give you an exact answer.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WiggiE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, it wont' run 13's. You're going to have to add some cams in there to hit 13's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, you'll need aggresive cams or some type of blower like a sc or turbo
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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thanks for all the input.....

what do you guys suggest for a cam with that setup?

also, I am running on street tires (stock rims and tires) so I won't be using slicks.

i'd like to hit low 14's at the track when i go but looks like you guys say its not possible so ill shoot for mid 14's. I am going to gut the car out as much as i can before I go.

I just have a friend that has been hassling me about my gsr not having turbo so his TSI talon will "walk all over me" he says. So, I want to put up some good numbers and or beat him at the track when we go.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by patdemps &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just have a friend that has been hassling me about my gsr not having turbo so his TSI talon will "walk all over me" he says. So, I want to put up some good numbers and or beat him at the track when we go. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If he put a quarter of the money in his car, that you put in yours, he will be walking all over you.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (WiggiE)

All he has is a lightened fly wheel, street clutch, boost controller, and blowoff valve. So, he isn't too far out of reach.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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You should be able to take him if he's got a 2nd gen FWD. If he's got AWD or a 1st gen, it's going to be ALOT harder.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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the reason I am asking is because the person who I am buying the car from has a dyno with his car at 188whp but that was with Toda Spec B cams in. Also, he had spoon rims and cam gears as well. But He also mentioned that the motor was abnormally strong because he ran a mid 14 with just an intake and a few other minor mods.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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He has AWD but its not a first generation. The car goes very well and hauls like hell off the line with his AWD. so, i need to make up the power in vtec and driving for sure.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (patdemps)

I was actually thinking about turbo but that would be farther down the road. I need to save up some funds to get the kind of money for turbo. I just don't want to lose reliability in the car. Turbo definately would be in the car if I had the funds but for now I am like most of us out there........saving and just hoping one day we can turbo. For now I am staying all motor with the car.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (patdemps)

If you do go turbo down the road you will need to get rid of this:

$$$ --&gt; Toda Racing Header 4-2-1

You might consider that before you make your purchase. Also that header is really more for a car with some serious cams.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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The car did have spec B cams on it. They were sold though. so, now i either have a full stock exhaust setup with my setup above or the one posted. I think I am going to have to go stock and then get a greddy evo catback and just work from there. But for now the setup in the beginning of the thread is what I will be staying with for now. Except I am purchasing AEM Cam gears.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (patdemps)

Those cam gears are going to do little if anything for you with stock cams.

I think you would break into the twelves easy with some Skunk 2 Stage 2s and while you are at it *throw* in some B16A pistons. That will jump your compression up to 11.37:1 which will compliment those cams nicely. You will need to upgrade your valve train, but you will also be able to rev as high as you are making power
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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (Jiz101)

How much do those pistons run for? Because one thing I do not have is bottom end. Right now its all stock. I would like to raise the compression.

so basically I am Cams, Pistons and tuning away from 12's.....or low 13's. Makes me want to get both of those. Ill save the cash and see where it gets me.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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itr cams maybe...
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Old May 13, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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Where can I find ITR cams and what kind of price am I looking at?
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Old May 13, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (patdemps)

I dont think you will be seeing twelves with those pistons and cams. Not without serious weight reduction and running slicks.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Can I reach 13's with this setup? (Jiz101)

i think if you wanna <U></U> hit 13's and not <U></U> hit 13's, then go with a ZEX kit... then do cams... Nitrous is cheaper then cams and you get alot more power... just my suggestion
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Old May 13, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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heres a good street setup: forged pistons 11.5-12:1
dc jdm header 2.5 collector
skunk stage 1 or 2 cams and valvetrain
TUNING!!! those wll get you to the 13's!
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Old May 13, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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its all something I will try to do for sure.

thanks for all the input thus far....keep it coming
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Old May 13, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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its all about the forced induction
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