Hi guys,

I own a 1999 ITR with Unorthodox Racing Pullies, CAI, Fuel Regulator, and Apexi Cat Back Exhaust, and I have a question....

Should I go turbo or supercharge?? I was leaning on the supercharger cuz it puts its stress on the belts rather than the motor, but I dunno what do you guys think??

Also what internals do I have to replace to make this possible and what is the risk of installing this in my car?? How much would it cost in CDN dollars....yes I'm from Canada!! haha

Thanks a lot guys,
bEn.

 

Your question is too general and could take a year to debate on this board.

I think you need to search and do A LOT of research before you even think of modifying your R, let alone going with F/I.

Stick around awhile and learn from other peoples mistakes and advice. Dont do anything to the car before you know what you are doing and what its going to cost you to DO IT RIGHT. You will save yourself a lot of headaches.

Enjoy your stay

 

I know man, thanks, but I wanna know what I need to do right to my engine in order to go f/i and how much it would cost to do it safely and the advantages of supercharger and turbo??

 

If all you want is lots of power. Turbo is the only way.

 

Chris, I want reliability and power as well, so whats the way to go??

 

Ben, why do you want to turbo or supercharge the R? You just got it! Remember, the R is not a drag car, if you want to go fast in a straight line, there are cheaper ways of doing it than building a turbo R. Try autocrossing your car, you will see where the car excels.

If you just want to be faster than matt, get some cams, valvesprings and retainers, a chipped ECU or Hondata

 

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Well thats what we all would like. Turbo can be very reliable if you have the proper setup and its tunned well. It will also give you the most power over all the other options.

I wouldnt say superchargers are worth considering since they are very expensive and for the money you can make more power with a n/a setup. Go to the search, selected archived and read up on turbo, supercharged and N/A setups. It's your best source of information. good luck ben.

 

Nobody is going to tell you right or wrong which is better, turbo or SC. There is no answer to that question, and it subject to everyone opinion.

To do it right, technically you dont have to do anything to your motor. You can slap a turbo or SC on a stock motor. You just wont be able to run much boost. Personally, I dont see the point of running a turbo if you dont intend to make impressive hp. But no matter what route you go, tuning is key. Before you even pick up a wrench, you better make sure you have a capable tuner so your set up runs correctly.

 

Wayne, I'm just looking at my options. I was considering going all motor like you because that was the safest thing to do, however, its also gonna take a long time and lots of money. I'm just playing with ideas and f/i is starting to appeal to me....especailly a supercharger. So I wanna start my research and budgeting to make this happen for next year or the year after. So can you help me out??

 

cheap. fast. reliable.

Pick two.

 

What about the fact that we have high compression and f/i is supposed to be bad for us?? I'm not well educated in that area so that's why I'm asking??

 

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Thats why we are telling you to search. Since you arent in a rush to do this today, spend some time in the search area and if you come up with specific questions that you cant find in the search, then ask them.

 

F/I forum may yield better responses for you https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum?id=16 Most people would probably lean toward turbo. I had a Greddy kit on a 5th gen EG,before the intercooler from Greddy was available,and I daily drove it for 2 years with 7 lbs. of boost. I did have a headgasket issue though. Install and engine management are key when you expect reliability. I will tell you from my experience though,F/I can open up a can of worms too. Putting a turbo/supercharger on a car that was never ment to have one can require a lot of other mods,ie clutch,headgasket,guages. All I'm saying is having a car addiction is a money pit in itself and F/I will spend your money even faster. I personally think all type R's should stay NA,just my $0.02.

 

Most people in this forum are going to tell you that the almighty God Honda made the Type R an NA car and that if you even consider putting forced induction on the car you will have committed a mortal sin for which you will spend the rest of eternity burning in Hell.

I like my supercharger, I like the way it makes the car drive. However, the increased hp from a turbo makes me wish I had gone that route from time to time...

 

the turbo guys will probably say turbo and the supercharged guys will say supercharged.

If you want to roll your friends, get a bottle

 

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lol look how good it was for the RealTypeR and his B18C5

 

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Pick two.</TD></TR></TABLE>
all are relative but in general terms this can apply to everything..

 

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no kidding...even women


Keep the R NA as it was meant to be...I don't understand why you think NA will take you so long.

There are other ways to make the car fast besides power..ever looked into getting a Final Drive, or reducing weight?

 

Weight reduction eh?? haha I dunno I was thikning about the final drive, but I still have to get my headers first and then I was talking to Wayne about Hondata, and he told me to do my othe parts of internals first. So my next challenge is to see what internals to get after my headers!! haha

 

A. It's header, not headers. Headers are for V configuration engines.

B. Decide whether or not you're going turbo before buying a header because once you go turbo you'll have to ditch the header.

 

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search around.. there were many topics covering what you're asking, including one i made, use different keywords for better results.

high compresion helps with more hp, i have 4.35psi spring, so whatever hp i will make of it will be it.. choose better parts for your setup so you can achieve more hp and better powerband. and when its time to upgrade, you will make more hp with turbo.

dont waiste your money on any setup until you really know what you want.

 

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Well said. If he doesn't take anything else from this thread, he should take that.

 

do lots and lots of research, and decide how much money you want to spend , if you wanna go cheap , dont go turbo .
i have had 2 na set ups, 3 nitrous set ups and now turbo on my car. i can tell you what i like the best
i didnt bother with supercharge, becuase in my eyes and from the R guys in my area supercharged , they arent making anywhere even close to the power i would consider worth the money. But thats just my opinion. i dont knwo much , im just here for the rider

 

Thanks guys for all your help, i'll take this into consideration and post up when I've made more of a solid decision!!

 

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Should I go turbo or supercharge?? I was leaning on the supercharger cuz it puts its stress on the belts rather than the motor, but I dunno what do you guys think??

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boost is boost, both put stress on your engine. for type r with high compression as it is...u should go N/A man. if u had a gsr, i'd say go turbo, but with an r...go N/A please. I think it's the most respectable way to go for a honda.