Im going to be puting a b18c in my 96 civic dx. I just wont to know if anyone has any reliability probs because the car will be daily driven and reliability is a must.

 

I'll be nice, very reliable if you do it correctly. for future questions I suggest you use this feature: SEARCH button.

 

Very reliable for daily driving. Overpriced and overrated though.

 

Super reliable. Drive it to the drags on Saturday and autox on Sunday. They are pricey (did a B18c-R swap) but worth every penny imo.

 

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No stay away from those factory built B series motors like the GSR or ITR, they are known to be very unreliable. A backyard LSVTEC or CRVTEC is the only way to go if you are looking for reliabilty.

 

yo never had a prob. w/ gsr if you put it in right very reliable, def. worth all the money u put into it, dont let anyone tell you dif...

 

IMHO, its the best combo of price, relaibilty, power, and ease of swap. H22a requires some extra effort, b18c (ITR, not JDM GSR) is alittle pricey, for the price difference, u can bring an JDM GSR to be faster then the ITR, so yeah.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nextekhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMHO, its the best combo of price, relaibilty, power, and ease of swap. H22a requires some extra effort, b18c (ITR, not JDM GSR) is alittle pricey, for the price difference, u can bring an JDM GSR to be faster then the ITR, so yeah. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha...funny

 

Whats so funny? With some nice cheap p30 pistons, CTR cams, and a few little things, ull take an ITR. 180 vs 195/200 hp isnt much of a diff at all

 

almost 2 yrs no problems with swap.

Faster than a type r for sure as it sits. Boosting is just around the corner.

 

its been taking a beating for a 1year and 2 months, still runs likk a champ

 

Any factory motor could be reliable as long as the motor was well taken care of.

 

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You obsviously don`t have one, or you`re thinking of an ITR swap. They are hardly overated and/or overpriced...

 

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You obsviously don`t have one </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL! i sure hope its like that... my gsr swap will be done this week, and i cant wait! i have considered that ive spent like 5k on it, and if i had just sold my civic it wouldent have been that big of a price difference than just buying an accual teg GSR... but then i remember that im getting a JDM (180 instead of 170 hp, and w/lsd) and my ACT clutch... which means i should be well equipped to take USDM teg gsr's

and i get to keep my EGg shell... which i love!

 

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Sorry, but I think he's right. They are overpriced and overrated in my opinion.

 

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Sorry, but I think he's right. They are overpriced and overrated in my opinion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, I suppose everyone has their own opiniions, and I respect yours, however, in regards to the thread Q, if not a GS-R, than what? a B16? I`d certainly go w/ what I have riite now and I`m very satisfied

But tell me why they`re overpriced and overated? I`d like to hear your opinion

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinister &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, I suppose everyone has their own opiniions, and I respect yours, however, in regards to the thread Q, if not a GS-R, than what? a B16? I`d certainly go w/ what I have riite now and I`m very satisfied

But tell me why they`re overpriced and overated? I`d like to hear your opinion </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd be glad to.
Well first off, there is no way I am bashing on GSR motors at all, they are incredible. If you want a strong motor that will make your car quick, and still retain great gas mileage, than a GSR swap is perfect.

But most places sell them for $3500 dollars, and I just think that's a little overpriced. They are great motors yes, but I think they are overrated because everyone thinks they are so "superior" to B16 motors, which I dont think so.

The B16 is incredible as well. Yes it lacks torque, but everyone thinks GSR is so much better, and worth the extra $1000, when you can just buy yourself a GSR block(Or LS block for much cheaper, but I wont get into that) and have yourself a nice setup.
A B16 head and tranny, GSR block with B16 pistons, which will yield a nice compression ratio, some mild cams(CTR, Skunk2 stage 1 etc) and tuning will be very nice. I mentioned the cams because it seems everyone wants more power than just bolt ons, and why spend extra money on the GSR motor if you are going to upgrade anyway? Plus with the B16 has a tighter geared transmission than the GSR's.

I typed the above because most people on this board want a nice reliable motor, with reliability of course. But if you not looking into modding your car much(just bolt ons) than of course the GSR motor will be the way to go.

But if you are looking for a nice reliable swap, but still want to do some internal work, than I just think getting a B16 motor with GSR block is the way to go.

 

You make some good points.
I will say this: My best friend had an incredibly fast B16, although it was by bore a 1.8, it was still based on a 1.6 platform. Also eg_nezay here on the board happens to have a super fast B16 too, so you won`t hear me kncokin that motor at all. I chose the GS-r b/c I liked another friends results a lil better, so I copied is *** (and now I`m considerably faster ), so like I say, it really boils down to prefernce.

You`re also right about the price tho, 3500 is the recent asking price for the B18c, and that`s a shame, when I grabbed mine(w/ an SiR trans w/ LSD) I paid 2800...So I got a deal, and B16`s go for 1900 in my neck of the woods, so the advantages might be within the price. It` preferential
G00d rally tho

 

 

[QUOTE=sinister]You make some good points.
I will say this: My best friend had an incredibly fast B16, although it was by bore a 1.8, it was still based on a 1.6 platform.

What is this "platform" you are talking about?? B16 and B18c bores are all the same, u better not be saying that your friend bored his B16 and made a B18 out of it cuz that straight up BS. Only way that your friend could make a 1.8L out of 1.6L is to sleeve the block and have it bored to 1.8L which would price the "B16" beyond the B18c. I though about what you wrote and it still doesn't make sense.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by leadfoot78 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[QUOTE=sinister]You make some good points.
I will say this: My best friend had an incredibly fast B16, although it was by bore a 1.8, it was still based on a 1.6 platform.

What is this "platform" you are talking about?? B16 and B18c bores are all the same, u better not be saying that your friend bored his B16 and made a B18 out of it cuz that straight up BS. Only way that your friend could make a 1.8L out of 1.6L is to sleeve the block and have it bored to 1.8L which would price the "B16" beyond the B18c. I though about what you wrote and it still doesn't make sense.</TD></TR></TABLE>

JE forged 85mm pistons, sleeved and finished professionally, perhaps not a full 1.8, but damn near.
And I know how a motor is put together, thanks.

 

Well a sleeved B16 with 85mm slugs is different than a stock B16 there is no comparison. I think its misleading to say that its a crazy fast B16 and not mention that it's sleeved with a 85mm bore. I can sleeve my B18c and it will be a 2.0L and it will eat a B16 stock or not.

 

Here's a question I am going to through out because i havent got the response i needed.....maybe you guys can help. I just did my jdm gsr swap and i am having these problems......here check this out:

http://www.Honda-Tech.com/zerothread?id=501400

Would Honda do a diagnostics check if i have a test pipe? Going back to Jacksonville tomorrow, so asap would be greatly appreciated!

 

Fuel would show up with lots of colors like a rainbow, if its not that than maybe its water or coolant, I don’t see how your car could spray enough fuel for it to get passed through the piston rings. Either way if it keeps on happening and it’s not fuel you will probably have to take of the head. Fuel has a distinct smell are you sure its fuel???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by leadfoot78 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well a sleeved B16 with 85mm slugs is different than a stock B16 there is no comparison. I think its misleading to say that its a crazy fast B16 and not mention that it's sleeved with a 85mm bore. I can sleeve my B18c and it will be a 2.0L and it will eat a B16 stock or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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