What are your opinions on that? I guess I might have gotten the wrong car? I'm looking to get a car that faster on straightaways? I was thinking abou slappin a turbo on it, but R's just aren't meant for that? Anybody know how much I can get for my '00 R? about 14k miles?

 

you could probally get around 21k-23k for it. If your looking for straght away speed go for the Supra Twin Turbo. Those cars are awesome

 

you are comparing apples and oranges. they are 2 totally different cars for 2 different purposes. supra's are nice and powerful...but big, if thats what you are looking for go for it. i love the size and nimbleness of the R. its a very responsive car, i didnt like the fact that it was lacking power though, so i turbo;d mine and im very happy.

 

Did you try doing a search?

It might have turned up this:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=47594

 

supras are awesome, and their owners love them. I say go for it.

 

Absolutely do it.

 

Supras are big and heavy, and have the worst throttle response ever, also the performance parts for them are really expensive. You can make your Type-R destroy a supra(basic mods) on motor...if you want more speed and more handling and a real adrenaline rush you need a 93-up Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo.

 

Man that's just too damn fast now Allmotor97itr.

Where can I get one?

 

I wouldn't hesitate ..... I'm just waiting for the right deal to come along. I love my R but the Supra TT is .... is .... just awesome.

Very fast car with all the luxuries! You can't go wrong. The only problem is trying to find one that wasn't beat on.

-Nick

 

Put the pipe down and slowly walk away. There is no way in a drag race situation that an ITR with basic mods or hell whatever mods you do will beat an equally prepared Supra TT. Oh and as for the Mazda, the 13B is a time bomb waiting to explode.


Boba-who would pick a Supra TT over a ITR any day.

 

These cars are worlds apart from each other. The simple fact is the ITR is gonna be a superior car on short tight track's but on the Long fast track's the Supra should kill it with the A/C blasting. The ITR is a driver's car while the Supra basically drives itself. Bad gas mileage vs. good lower insurance premiums vs. high and of course the chick factor, a removable roof swoopy body rear whell drive burnout's and leather is gonna attract them if thats your thing. The speed factor is another thing for 2000$ dollars the ITR can run 13's but for the same amount in a Supra your looking at 12's easy. But the abuse factor is another consideration did you buy your ITR new if so then you know were it has been and what has happened or not happened to it. My friend has a TT Supra and it was very fast until he put a BLITZ front mount IC, Blitz Boost controller and Blitz speed meter on it he taxed the turbos and they gave out, now he is looking at thousand's to just get it back to the way it used to be and I can smoke him. If your B18c5 goes out it is out if the Turbos go out your Driving a slowwwww sports car.

 

i ment a supra with basic mods , and a built all motor type-r , and if you dont know about 13b's dont say anything , not to be mean but i run 9's on a 13b with stock internals and it is daily drive and never had a problem....im sorry but for every mod you do to an rx7 , you have to do 3 to a supra to keep up .....supras are slowwwww


[Modified by AllMoToR97ITR, 9:36 AM 7/5/2001]

 

Well, as most people know I think the Supra TT is one of the most incredible machines ever built. I only hope the MKV keeps the same motor (in which case I'll be selling my Rex). If you autocross, keep the R but otherwise you'll be amazed at the capabilities of the Supra in all facets. Just bear in mind it is a much more brutal machine than the R. The clutch is super heavy, the steering is also, the weight of the car is much higher, etc. . . . Also, parts are much more expensive.

 

I wanna see some pic's of this RX-7 it sond's brutal

 

i'll send them to you when i get home...

 

How many times have you had to change your apex seals? Dollar for dollar mod on each car, the Supra will kill the RX-7 period. Greg Paisley was running 8's on a stock bottom end. The 13B is a very sweet motor, but for comparing the two, the Inline 6 of the Supra will far outlast the wankle. And a BPU Supra will demolish a ITR with a built motor. Their are many BPU's putting down close to 425hp at the wheels, I'm sorry to say that NO ITR will be able to keep up with that kind of power.


Boba- who finds it hard to believe that you daily drive a 9 sec car.

 

i never changed my apex seals , i just bought a new motor from mazda when i bought the car to start fresh....now tell me what you think about this.....Greg Paisley has a "Tube Chasis" supra , adam has a full interior , stock chasis RX7 runing the same times. Also "the Inline 6 of the Supra will far outlast the wankle." that was a very wrong quote , my friend puts 340whp on his 93 rx7 and my othe friend puts 510whp on his supra , the supra runs 11.8s and the RX7 runs 11.7s, a supra will always need about 180hp more than the RX7 to keep up ( thats a fact ). i'll send you pics of my RX7when i get home so that you can see it is a daily driver. it even has a sony head unit , a 10 disc changer that i just got ,and a alarm..
also have you ever seen the power curve on a RX7 and on a supra? on the RX7 the higher you rev the more power it makes , it never stops making power, now on the supra the curve goes up and then when you get high on rpm starts to go straight and then down



[Modified by AllMoToR97ITR, 10:15 AM 7/5/2001]

 

supra's kick ***. i have friend's with t78 turbo and the works on them. it is sick!!! nothing from 0-4500rpm but that is when the turbo reaches full boost, and all at once. pulls so hard makes you **** your pants. a couple weeks ago a new viper pulled up on us when we were in his car (4 people in the car). the viper punched it first, we'll just say 5 seconds later we were at least 10 car lengths in front of him and almost hit warp speed. it is fairly luxurious too. too bad the car is a damn boat. i agree rx-7's are tthe best way to go, as long as you tune them right and have proper knowledge of the car. the only thing i hate is all of the darn vacuum lines.

 

paisley doesn't have a stock bottom end!

 

yea there is a sc300 down here terrorizing the streets , it runs 10.8s in the 1/4...i also raced a IS300 with my Type-R and that thing destroyed me , it was deffs a 11 second car....Toyomoto is creating some beasts this days http://www.toyomoto.com

 

You're looking at 3500 pounds vs 2600 for the ITR. That difference is HUGE.

 

I don't think 13B reliability is even questioned. I know of MANY cases of bad apex seals at relatively low miles. They aren't reliable at all, ask Knightsport
The freaking MKIV bottom end is damn near bulletproof, but wieghs much more.

 

I had a GenII turbo ...........88 I believe.
Complete POS. It was the greatest thing in the world when it ran properly, but that was rare. Apex seals went bad about three months into owning the car (bought it used with like 44,000 miles on it) caused engine to overheat and warp the rotors. Second engine started having turbo problems.........traded the MFER in on my GSR and have not looked back.
In reading about these things it appears the NA RX7s are fairly reliable, but with the extra charge preasure they just can't hold together. I would love to have a 94 RX7 tt, but I would also need a mountain of cash, a full-time mechanic and a loaner car.

My R gets me where I want to go every day without worries and it get my rocks off at AutoX..

My $.o2

 

I would be driving an RX-7 if it wasn't for the reliability factor. Plus I don't like the sound of the wankel. But its an incredible car and I would love to have one. My car has a bit of a weight problem compared to the 7, but I would agree that extra power comes a little more hassle free with the supra. There are full street trim supras in the 9's at 140+ also.

Now if I could only have a mechanic that works for cat food to keep my car in perfect working order, then I'd get an rx-7.


Devin
93tt




P.S. I edited my post for those that were offended. You would have to know who Mr. Akimoto is to understand it.


[Modified by Slow_AZ_Supratt, 4:09 AM 7/8/2001]

 

WTF?!