skunk2 stage 1's on skunk valvetrain. please read,need advise
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skunk2 stage 1's on skunk valvetrain. please read,need advise
ok im getting skunk stage 1's soon and i already have the springs and retainers. i understand that stock springs can handle the stage 1's but i wanna be runnin 8500+ rpms. if i just through in the retainers, would that be fine or would i have valvefloat issues?and are the valvesprings a bit tight for such a mild profile??
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Re: skunk2 stage 1's on skunk valvetrain. please read,need advise (Project H22DC4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Project H22DC4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get some portflow springs and retainers and u will b good...</TD></TR></TABLE>
He already has valvesprings and retainers.
He already has valvesprings and retainers.
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thanx guys, what should i get my rev limit chipped to? any good places to have it chipped, maybe ericks racing? and is there ANYTHING else i should buy prior to the install of the 3 items? just to be safe considering a honda mechanic wont be doing it.
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I had my limit chipped to 9500, just in case I ever go skunk2 stage 2 - which I doubt I will - wont need to.
Talk to Kenji on this board - he'll give you a great deal on a KILLER chip.
Other little things - I might change my oil shortly after doing the install, and maybe put in some new plugs just while youre there.
Talk to Kenji on this board - he'll give you a great deal on a KILLER chip.
Other little things - I might change my oil shortly after doing the install, and maybe put in some new plugs just while youre there.
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The lighter retainers will allow you to rev 300rpm higher, but if you have the springs as well you might as well do both, it would be the best way to go.
You don't need new valves, the stock ones are fine. TypeR intake valves are a little lighter, but ITR and GSR exhaust valves are the same. Skunk2 valves raise the compressionby adding material to the vavle face and are essncially stock. Not the best way to raise compression.
ITR lost motion assemblys (LMA's) are not absolutly nessecary unless you want to spend the cash to have them(they're a bit expensive for what they are). It wouldn't hurt but they won't increse performance or revability. I know of several cases of people running gsr lmas with bigger cams than skunk2 stage 1's without problems.
You don't need new valves, the stock ones are fine. TypeR intake valves are a little lighter, but ITR and GSR exhaust valves are the same. Skunk2 valves raise the compressionby adding material to the vavle face and are essncially stock. Not the best way to raise compression.
ITR lost motion assemblys (LMA's) are not absolutly nessecary unless you want to spend the cash to have them(they're a bit expensive for what they are). It wouldn't hurt but they won't increse performance or revability. I know of several cases of people running gsr lmas with bigger cams than skunk2 stage 1's without problems.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerZook »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The lighter retainers will allow you to rev 300rpm higher, but if you have the springs as well you might as well do both, it would be the best way to go.
You don't need new valves, the stock ones are fine. TypeR intake valves are a little lighter, but ITR and GSR exhaust valves are the same. Skunk2 valves raise the compressionby adding material to the vavle face and are essncially stock. Not the best way to raise compression.
ITR lost motion assemblys (LMA's) are not absolutly nessecary unless you want to spend the cash to have them(they're a bit expensive for what they are). It wouldn't hurt but they won't increse performance or revability. I know of several cases of people running gsr lmas with bigger cams than skunk2 stage 1's without problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So let me get something straight you are basically telling this guy to switch out his whole valvetrain ex. ( cams, spring, retainers ) and not to change the valves??? The valves should almost definetly be changed why put new with old!! Type R valves will also allow him to rev higher because they are lighter!! just dont cheap out bro thry are only $150 and its definetly worh it!!
You don't need new valves, the stock ones are fine. TypeR intake valves are a little lighter, but ITR and GSR exhaust valves are the same. Skunk2 valves raise the compressionby adding material to the vavle face and are essncially stock. Not the best way to raise compression.
ITR lost motion assemblys (LMA's) are not absolutly nessecary unless you want to spend the cash to have them(they're a bit expensive for what they are). It wouldn't hurt but they won't increse performance or revability. I know of several cases of people running gsr lmas with bigger cams than skunk2 stage 1's without problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So let me get something straight you are basically telling this guy to switch out his whole valvetrain ex. ( cams, spring, retainers ) and not to change the valves??? The valves should almost definetly be changed why put new with old!! Type R valves will also allow him to rev higher because they are lighter!! just dont cheap out bro thry are only $150 and its definetly worh it!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverB18C1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wont a GSR head need to be modified in order to run ITR valves? correct me if im wrong, but i dont think you can just "drop" them in</TD></TR></TABLE>
As usual you and your boy THREATCON13 are wrong!! The valves like stated before are pretty much like GSR valves except they are just lighter which allows for higher revving!!
As usual you and your boy
THREATCON13 are wrong!! The valves like stated before are pretty much like GSR valves except they are just lighter which allows for higher revving!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRVtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As usual you and your boy THREATCON13 are wrong!! The valves like stated before are pretty much like GSR valves except they are just lighter which allows for higher revving!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was asking a simple question and looking for a simple answer.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=234873
EDIT: heres another link to back me up
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=208299
As usual you and your boy
THREATCON13 are wrong!! The valves like stated before are pretty much like GSR valves except they are just lighter which allows for higher revving!!</TD></TR></TABLE>i was asking a simple question and looking for a simple answer.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=234873
EDIT: heres another link to back me up
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=208299
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRVtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As usual you and your boy THREATCON13 are wrong!! The valves like stated before are pretty much like GSR valves except they are just lighter which allows for higher revving!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay dont hammer SilverB18C1. Youre acting like you know everything. Its annoying. He is running skunk2 stage 1's. With the valvesprings and retainers he can safely rev to 9300 or so with that, and the Stage 1's dont even make power up that high. There is absolutely no need to upgrade valves - yea you could get the high comp valves, but its not worth it. To change the valves you have to take off the head, which takes alot of time. You can do the valvesprings and retainers with the head on. He is not doing a hardcore cam setup, and does not need valves, nor will he gain much if he does get them, and spend obnoxious amounts of time putting them in.
As usual you and your boy
THREATCON13 are wrong!! The valves like stated before are pretty much like GSR valves except they are just lighter which allows for higher revving!!</TD></TR></TABLE>Okay dont hammer SilverB18C1. Youre acting like you know everything. Its annoying. He is running skunk2 stage 1's. With the valvesprings and retainers he can safely rev to 9300 or so with that, and the Stage 1's dont even make power up that high. There is absolutely no need to upgrade valves - yea you could get the high comp valves, but its not worth it. To change the valves you have to take off the head, which takes alot of time. You can do the valvesprings and retainers with the head on. He is not doing a hardcore cam setup, and does not need valves, nor will he gain much if he does get them, and spend obnoxious amounts of time putting them in.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverB18C1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i was asking a simple question and looking for a simple answer.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=234873</TD></TR></TABLE>
With the amount of posts you have you should know the answer to that very simple question!! Know seeing that you did not know the answer you are in my and of lot of other peoples books as a post *****!!
Also if you would of fully read the thread before you asked that question you would of found your answer! YOU MY FRIEND ARE A POST *****!! its very simple just read the THREAD before you post!!
i was asking a simple question and looking for a simple answer.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=234873</TD></TR></TABLE>
With the amount of posts you have you should know the answer to that very simple question!! Know seeing that you did not know the answer you are in my and of lot of other peoples books as a post *****!!
Also if you would of fully read the thread before you asked that question you would of found your answer! YOU MY FRIEND ARE A POST *****!! its very simple just read the THREAD before you post!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo1z »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Okay dont hammer SilverB18C1. Youre acting like you know everything. Its annoying. He is running skunk2 stage 1's. With the valvesprings and retainers he can safely rev to 9300 or so with that, and the Stage 1's dont even make power up that high. There is absolutely no need to upgrade valves - yea you could get the high comp valves, but its not worth it. To change the valves you have to take off the head, which takes alot of time. You can do the valvesprings and retainers with the head on. He is not doing a hardcore cam setup, and does not need valves, nor will he gain much if he does get them, and spend obnoxious amounts of time putting them in.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im gald you think i know it all because nobody ever does!! In this post you are wrong the valves can be taken off with the head on!! all you have to do is blow compressed air into the sparkplug hole so the valve does not drop!! I hope this will set you straight and stop giving out wrong info!! Know i no why that install of your SKUNK2 IM took so long!!
Okay dont hammer SilverB18C1. Youre acting like you know everything. Its annoying. He is running skunk2 stage 1's. With the valvesprings and retainers he can safely rev to 9300 or so with that, and the Stage 1's dont even make power up that high. There is absolutely no need to upgrade valves - yea you could get the high comp valves, but its not worth it. To change the valves you have to take off the head, which takes alot of time. You can do the valvesprings and retainers with the head on. He is not doing a hardcore cam setup, and does not need valves, nor will he gain much if he does get them, and spend obnoxious amounts of time putting them in.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im gald you think i know it all because nobody ever does!! In this post you are wrong the valves can be taken off with the head on!! all you have to do is blow compressed air into the sparkplug hole so the valve does not drop!! I hope this will set you straight and stop giving out wrong info!! Know i no why that install of your SKUNK2 IM took so long!!
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HAhaha man you guys crack me up. I shouldn't be posting anything more but what the heck? Only the intake ITR valves (which can be dropped into a gsr head withou modification. the itr and gsr share the same exhaust vavles) are lighter and not by much. SUre lighter valves will let you rev higher, but how high do you want/need to go? We're talking stage 1's here not Toda vtec killers.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRVtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Im gald you think i know it all because nobody ever does!! In this post you are wrong the valves can be taken off with the head on!! all you have to do is blow compressed air into the sparkplug hole so the valve does not drop!! I hope this will set you straight and stop giving out wrong info!! Know i no why that install of your SKUNK2 IM took so long!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
The only way to get the valves out without taking the head off is to remove the oil pan, crank and pistons and take the valves out from underneath. They will not come out the top of the head. The compressed air is used to hold the vavles in place so that the vavlespring and vavle retainer can be removed and the vavle does not drop into teh cylinder.
Practice what you preach. It makes you look smarter.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRVtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Im gald you think i know it all because nobody ever does!! In this post you are wrong the valves can be taken off with the head on!! all you have to do is blow compressed air into the sparkplug hole so the valve does not drop!! I hope this will set you straight and stop giving out wrong info!! Know i no why that install of your SKUNK2 IM took so long!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
The only way to get the valves out without taking the head off is to remove the oil pan, crank and pistons and take the valves out from underneath.
They will not come out the top of the head. The compressed air is used to hold the vavles in place so that the vavlespring and vavle retainer can be removed and the vavle does not drop into teh cylinder.Practice what you preach. It makes you look smarter.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerZook »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HAhaha man you guys crack me up. I shouldn't be posting anything more but what the heck? Only the intake ITR valves (which can be dropped into a gsr head withou modification. the itr and gsr share the same exhaust vavles) are lighter and not by much. SUre lighter valves will let you rev higher, but how high do you want/need to go? We're talking stage 1's here not Toda vtec killers.
The only way to get the valves out without taking the head off is to remove the oil pan, crank and pistons and take the valves out from underneath. They will not come out the top of the head. The compressed air is used to hold the vavles in place so that the vavlespring and vavle retainer can be removed and the vavle does not drop into teh cylinder.
Practice what you preach. It makes you look smarter.
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So basically 95GSRVtec - youre a retard.
The only way to get the valves out without taking the head off is to remove the oil pan, crank and pistons and take the valves out from underneath.
They will not come out the top of the head. The compressed air is used to hold the vavles in place so that the vavlespring and vavle retainer can be removed and the vavle does not drop into teh cylinder.Practice what you preach. It makes you look smarter.
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So basically 95GSRVtec - youre a retard.
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Re: (neo1z)
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So basically 95GSRVtec - youre a retard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I 2nd that.
So basically 95GSRVtec - youre a retard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I 2nd that.
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Re: (RacerZook)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerZook »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HAhaha man you guys crack me up. I shouldn't be posting anything more but what the heck? Only the intake ITR valves (which can be dropped into a gsr head withou modification. the itr and gsr share the same exhaust vavles) are lighter and not by much. SUre lighter valves will let you rev higher, but how high do you want/need to go? We're talking stage 1's here not Toda vtec killers.
The only way to get the valves out without taking the head off is to remove the oil pan, crank and pistons and take the valves out from underneath. They will not come out the top of the head. The compressed air is used to hold the vavles in place so that the vavlespring and vavle retainer can be removed and the vavle does not drop into teh cylinder.
Practice what you preach. It makes you look smarter.
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Dude WTF are u talking about??????????????? The valves can be taken out with head on just like said and if you dont believe me call your local machine shop or performance shop tomorrow!!!
The only way to get the valves out without taking the head off is to remove the oil pan, crank and pistons and take the valves out from underneath.
They will not come out the top of the head. The compressed air is used to hold the vavles in place so that the vavlespring and vavle retainer can be removed and the vavle does not drop into teh cylinder.Practice what you preach. It makes you look smarter.
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Dude WTF are u talking about??????????????? The valves can be taken out with head on just like said and if you dont believe me call your local machine shop or performance shop tomorrow!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo1z »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So basically 95GSRVtec - youre a retard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Im the retard???? You originally thought they could not be taken out @ all with the head being removed!!! I bet you are still struggling to put that SKUNK2 IM on!! You my friend are STUNNA and know nothing about cars or how to work on them!!
So basically 95GSRVtec - youre a retard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Im the retard???? You originally thought they could not be taken out @ all with the head being removed!!! I bet you are still struggling to put that SKUNK2 IM on!! You my friend are STUNNA and know nothing about cars or how to work on them!!