I heard nothing but amazing things about the DC5-R acceleration, handling, braking etc..... But I've yet to see one slip or number to back up claims. Anyone over seas or here has some info? By the way I guess people are starting to see the potential of these new K series motor's we have a worthy successor to our B series engines.

 

That's what I figured given the power increase however, would like something in concrete. Thanks anyways!

 

lol...type S...i like your avatar. howstuffworks.com??

 

14.3

although that came from fastandfuriouseast.com... it seems to be on the lines of accuracy.

Keep in mind although that car does have more power than the DC2R, it weighs a LOT.

 

SlammedblueEM2, it may weigh more but it still has a better power/weight ratio. Best Motoring, I'm sure ya'll have heard of them, got 14.6 in the old ITR and 14.3 in the new ITR. Don't really care for drag racing, and we don't have anywhere to time as the longest thing on OKI is 150m, not even an 1/8th of mile. There are street drags, I can try and get you some unofficial times. I won't fudge the numbers cause I don't believe in being dishonest in anyway. You will need to wait though, I am still waiting to get the car from Honda, 37 more days.

Chris

 

That's weird cause I have all Best Motoring Videos released here and they never showed acceleration times for it. Maybe it's in one of the Japanese versions. By the way the RXS TypeS weighs the same as a GSR why would the new DC5 weigh more than the DC2? I've seen some specs and it was supposed to be identical to us.

 

It weighs more because of the chassis stiffening. The engine itself is lighter. The DC2R weighed in from 1090-1110kg. The DC5R is from 1170-1180kg.

 

It weighs more because of the chassis stiffening. The engine itself is lighter. The DC2R weighed in from 1090-1110kg. The DC5R is from 1170-1180kg.

Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I can't wait until we finally get the DC5.

 

why are you having to wait so long if you are in Japan? Are the DC5R's on back order?

 

Because their is some sort of minor change to the Integra. And yes, even if there wasn't, they are not made in masses as other cars. They are not made to order per say, but they make batches at a time from what I understand.

 

According to a few japanese videos ive seen, it runs in the low 14's range. Its a tad heavier than the DC2-R, but the larger engine, with more hp and torque make up for it.

 

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What year? People in the ITR forums here have seen stock ITRs run low 14s in the 00-01 USDM Spec Rs on the drag strip thanks to CTR cams.

Yeah, I'm no big in drag racing either but the #s still interest me and I still find them important to an extent. Tein's DC5R curb weight was over 2900lbs! (And I will admit, those #s came from a ricermag SCC.)... 200lbs more than the RSX-S and that car had literally nothing done to it other than some bolt on mods and body graphics?

That's some chassis stiffening...

 

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I think I see what you mean but is something like that expected to happen?

 

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maybe their changing the crappy suspension ....hopefully

 

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maybe their changing the crappy suspension ....hopefully </TD></TR></TABLE>

What makes it crappy? I know some people didn't like the ride height of the car but Honda changed that because so many DC2R owners were complaining the car was too rigid on rough roads for normal driving.

 

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What makes it crappy? I know some people didn't like the ride height of the car but Honda changed that because so many DC2R owners were complaining the car was too rigid on rough roads for normal driving.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and yes ...because DC2 owners are gonna complain it is to rough ....we all know its rough ...but thats the point of the car .....and if we complain .its on a forum ....of which Honda is not listening .....

the DC5 was built around the american market .....look at the DC5R ..even it looks like a jeep ....the geometry and design of the DC5 suspension is bad ..

Mugen had to restructure the suspension ...and not just a simple change ..HUGE changes , just for it to be truely correct ....

it was built more for high ride height ..and smoothness ...to appeal to a broad market ...of "americans" ....

Japan makes the most money off of american s ...not in japan ...

 

I see.

However, what I don't get is that the car from what I heard is supposed to make 1 second faster lap times over the DC2R. So in no way, the suspension has improved?

I understand that lower, stiffer suspension allows better handling yet runs the risk of a rough and uncomfortable ride, but as you can see... something doesn't make sense to me if you're saying the new suspension set-up is detuned, and yet the car really isn't THAT much faster than the DC2R overall.

 

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However, what I don't get is that the car from what I heard is supposed to make 1 second faster lap times over the DC2R. So in no way, the suspension has improved?

I understand that lower, stiffer suspension allows better handling yet runs the risk of a rough and uncomfortable ride, but as you can see... something doesn't make sense to me if you're saying the new suspension set-up is detuned, and yet the car really isn't THAT much faster than the DC2R overall.</TD></TR></TABLE>

in order for the DC5 chassis to be vastly competitive ..racing teams have had to greatly restructure the suspension ...

if racing teams have to go thru that kinda ordeal just to get it right ..it wasnt designed correctly in the first place ...which is not to much of a worry ...i'm sure honda knows this by now ...and will make due changes in the next Gen Integra ..

i honestly feel the DC5 has been faster stock 4 stock against the DC2 because the big improvements in the braking department .....the faster you brake ....the more speed you can carry thru the turn .....the faster you can exit ....

the DC2 simply uses Prelude brakes ...which are not up to the task at all times ....

DC5 got a good power plant , and chassis ...but got jipped big time on the suspension

 

I believe that was a miss print.....Why in the hell would Honda make the type r heavier than every other dc5? The type r is a stripped out street legal race car (basically). I don't know about you, but I have faith in those Honda enigeers.

 

What was a misprint--the weight that I provided? The new DC5 Integra R weighs in at either 1170 or 1180kg, depending if you get A/C or not. The old DC2 Integra R weighed in at either 1090 or 1110kg depending on A/C, SRS, audio, power windows and whatnot. That translates into a 5.36kg/ps for the DC5R at its heaviest and 5.45kg/ps for the DC2R at its lightest. I don't know what the RSX weighs in at, but I am sure that it is heavier than the 2596lbs of the DC5 Integra R.

Also, on a side note, I was at Honda this past weekend trying to find out about the minor change--NO CHANGE AT ALL TO THE TYPE R! Only change they had listed was for the Integra iS, so I'm guessing that it is something minor interior wise. Anyways, it is down to 29 days for me and my new baby.

Chris

 

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Wow. If that's an official # I'm impressed. It's 40lbs heavier than my car and 400lbs lighter than Tein's # posted on Sport Compact Car. Damn ricer mags can't even use a propa scale. It's about time I got #s other than kg. I can't translate that **** to pounds.

Curb weight for the RSX and RSX S as per Acura:

RSX
Manual: 2694 lbs (1222 kg)
Automatic: 2771 lbs (1257 kg)

Type S
2767 lbs (1255 kg)