A buddy of mine has a 94 EX Accord with a auto tranny. Today he drove it and it was having trouble shifting from 2-3. I checked fluid levels and they are fine. The 1-2 shift is fine. 2-3 slips like crazy and just revs rather than shifting to 3rd. 3-4 is fine.

Any idea on what might be happening?

Thanks,

-Nick-

 

it's the 2 3 clutch.

it'll cost him quite a bit to rebuild it, or at least it does around here.

probably better just to buy a new tranny.

 

it will cost you about 2 grand to fix it where I live Minneapolis/ST paul through the honda dealer.

 

mine slipped from 3rd-4th, i fixed it buy going h22 and 5sp swap

 

yeah the swap will only be about $1000-$1500 more than the tranny itself. Depending on where you get the engine and how you get the work done(IE do it yourself or have someone else do it professionally). Just do the swap while your at it. Trust me its awesome!

 

level 10 rebuilt will cost you about $4000 shipped + CORE

 

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yeah, that's with new torque converter, valve body recalibration, and all clutches replaced with good stuff.

for around the same price, you can go with a Protech rebuild and get all of that plus LSD and tranny cooler.

 

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is it worth the price though??? 4000 sounds kinda steep. Cant ya do an engine swap with that kinda money?

 

Daaayum! Well I guess ill have to break the bad news to him... Sounds like a OBD-I Auto H22 swap would be just as costly and much more fun.

Thanks fellas,

-Nick-

 

...and $4,000 later on a high performance auto tranny rebuild you'll still be slow

 

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uhhhhh....how do you get that?

 

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a high performance auto tranny is not all of sudden going to make the f22 fast. maybe as fast as a 5sp, but that's it.

now if you were turbo, that's a different story. higher stall speed will allow to spool the turbo from the launch.

 

no, it's not going to make it a super fast car or anything, but it will put down more power, and it will also shift faster and harder than a manual.

it WOULD be faster than a manual, with the same mods (or no mods for that matter) done to them and in the same condition.

 

looking at the 0-60 times of the new accord, getting the 6 speed because it accellerates faster gets you .1 sec over the 5sp auto to the 60 mark. In reality ther guy with the auto would win most of the time as it can shift faster than most people can.

the weight difference for the 03 accords is like from 2994 for the base LX I4 coupe to 3294 ex V6 coupe a total of 300 lbs differnce between base model and fully loaded V6 with 5sp auto

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carolinaACCORD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, it's not going to make it a super fast car or anything, but it will put down more power, and it will also shift faster and harder than a manual.

it WOULD be faster than a manual, with the same mods (or no mods for that matter) done to them and in the same condition.


ok so the fastest i have heard of for 5sp EX with bolt-ons is 15.7-15.8 range. so now maybe you can run a 15.5-15.6 at best. was it worth $4,000, i don't think so. you will still get beat on the highway too, cause after 90mph or so the gearing is ****.

i don't really see how it'll put down more power, you can put down more power on a launch from launching higher, but power to the wheels will probably still be less than 5sp overall on a dyno.

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who said this, never believe what car magazines say about 0-60 crap. also it's a 5sp auto which has better gearing than a 4sp auto would. besides 0-60 don't mean **** since cars are designed to do 0-60 with only one gear change to make it so car testers get better times. 1/4 mile is a better test of a cars power. 3rd gear is where honda 5sp trannies are known to pull and that's where it'll kick a 4sp autos butt.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KGAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so the fastest i have heard of for 5sp EX with bolt-ons is 15.7-15.8 range. so now maybe you can run a 15.5-15.6 at best. was it worth $4,000, i don't think so. you will still get beat on the highway too, cause after 90mph or so the gearing is ****.

i don't really see how it'll put down more power, you can put down more power on a launch from launching higher, but power to the wheels will probably still be less than 5sp overall on a dyno.
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no, i didnt mean it would put down more power than a 5 speed, just more power than the stock A/T.

and with just bolt-ons it doesnt matter, because even a 5 speed is still slow, IMO.
I'm talking with big power adders and overall acceleration, the built auto will win every time, hands down.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that I start an argument about A/T and M/T about every week now? LOL

 

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no, i didnt mean it would put down more power than a 5 speed, just more power than the stock A/T.

and with just bolt-ons it doesnt matter, because even a 5 speed is still slow, IMO.
I'm talking with big power adders and overall acceleration, the built auto will win every time, hands down.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that I start an argument about A/T and M/T about every week now? LOL </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok i see where your coming from now, but i think built autos are still way more beneficial on cars that have huge amounts of torque like built V8s and V6 turbo cars. controlling wheel spin on these cars and handling the torque is very difficult for a manual gearbox, but a torque converter handles it well.

i believe if autos were better on a turbo honda, then why aren't all the big time racers using them.

 

of course I did not mention that there is .2 sec difference in the 1/4 mile times.

and most of the better car mags have professional drivers that do their testing and they definately know how to work a manual.

Overall most people cannot sift a stick quicker than your automatic changes gears. Why do you think a lot of race cars use a clutchless manual (meaning that the computer changes gears when you move the stick from 1 gear to the next)

 

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Oh there, hold it. Clutchless manuals, or sequential, gearboxes have nothing to do with our stock auto trannies. Our stock auto trannies are slow as ****. Stage ten trannies like CarolinaAccord says are better than 5 speeds granted, but <U>never</U> stand up to a true sequential. Otherwise, why would they be paying over 15 gran for them?

 

OH.... let's all just go get custom Quaife 6-speeds and throw them in there.

they're only about $16,000.

 

Not what I'm saying. What I say is don't go compare auto trannies with sequentials, because they don't; they are in another class.