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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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okay i got two questions. Okay how much horses asd to the wheels im lookin at if i do my swap h22a but i switch the h22 head with a h23 head . also anyone know of any good onlince stores that carry the act clutches for a reasonable price. with good customer care and onlince credibility.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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I am not sure what you are asking. You are planning to swap an h22 into your accord, and then put an h23 head on it? Why would you want to do this? Are you asking how many horses you would lose to the wheel? Or how many you would gain? I don't think this swap would make much sense. If you are putting an h23 in and swaping the head for an h22 head, then I don't know the answer to that question, sorry.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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WTF????
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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guys, cut him some slack, he might have the block, but not the head. I guess you would loose a lil power and torque, how much? beats me.
I also guess you can do this temporarily till you find a new H22A head to put back on.
So, why are you planing on doing this?
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GZERO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">guys, cut him some slack, he might have the block, but not the head. I guess you would loose a lil power and torque, how much? beats me.
I also guess you can do this temporarily till you find a new H22A head to put back on.
So, why are you planing on doing this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ah that would make sense, but I think it would be pretty difficult to get everything to work properly. If this is the case it would probably just be better to save for an H22A head.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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i was told or misinformed i dont know. but a friend of mine told me i should use the h23 head on a h22 block or the h22a head on the h23 block and you will gain more horsepower. Please dont take a big giant **** on me this is what i was told i just wanted to find out.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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He should be saying h23 block matted to a h22 head. I don't think it's the time. Could be wrong.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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From what I've heard, the H23 block with the H22 head will make more power but will not last long...
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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If I heard right, I've been told with such a Frankenstein setup, you're looking at 200+whp, 175Whtq, and that's before adding bolt-ons. But don't quote me on this.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stew Pidasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I've heard, the H23 block with the H22 head will make more power but will not last long...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I read somewhere from Scott (2point6) that he did some of this frankesteins (H23 block mated to a H22A head) and if they are done right it can work reliably.
let's wait to see what scott has to say
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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i was under the impression that scott had a bored and stroked h22 (hence the 2.6)...i didn't think it was the h23 bottom end?...but i could be wrong...
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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just stick with a h22 and build it.

nuff said.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GZERO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I read somewhere from Scott (2point6) that he did some of this frankesteins (H23 block mated to a H22A head) and if they are done right it can work reliably.
let's wait to see what scott has to say</TD></TR></TABLE>
My personal engine is not an H23 VTEC it is a stroked H22a (custom crank).
I have built several H23 VTEC engines and haven't had any real issues with them. As long as every aspect of the engine build-up is addressed these engines can last a very long time. If everyone is worried about rod ratios, I say for them to look at my current engine as an example... It has an even lower rod ratio than an H23 VTEC. My rod ratio is 1.44. If you build an H23 VTEC, make sure that you don't take any short cuts during the build. Most people out there are just looking for the "cheap" route. Sure you can build this type of engine by little more than placing an H22a head on, but then you take your chances...

Here is a link to a very good post on my site. Read the entire post as it has some very good info if you are considering doing this type of build-up. Some will have to register, so I apologize if this is an inconvienience.

http://www.collectiveracing.ne...t=107
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