I'm looking to put a b18 from older integra into my crx.. I owned a 92 integra ls .. loved the torque.. want it back :-) i know there is alotta issues with this.. is it even worth it you think? i mean 140 hp... when b16 is much better.. but this would be cheaper.. someone let me know :-)

 

If you're deciding on dropping a B18 (nonvtec) motor, consider dropping a B20 instead. More torque and eventually more power should you add a Vtec head.

 

which b20?? z or b?? just curious

 

B20z i think has slightly higher compression and newer motor. I'd take any, if you're going to build the block anyway.

 

Currently I am running LS-Vtec but have had 2 EF 's one 89' and the current a 88' I started with the current as just a B18a and the 89' was also a B18a and I loved it. I stomped all over b16a swaped EF 's all day (just so long as they had equal mods as me). Anyway the tourque is awsome and I wouldnt give for it. With a B18a/b swap you have the option of either turbo what you have or do LS-Vtec. I say go for it. Although the b20 would be alot more tourque I say for the cost just go B18a. Youll love it.

 

what the ls lacks in hp it makes up for in tq. when you think about a b20 though you need to think about what you want to do with it.. if you plan to boost then take the ls because my understading is that b20's have weak sleeves. in my ls i am very happy.. i had a low redline and threw in some crower cams wich bumped my redline up to 8 grand. a b16 might take you on the highway but on the street a LS will stomp a b16. LS is also a great nitrous motor. low compression and you can squeeze a direct port setup with ease .. no worrys.

 

The B20 does have weaker sleeves. It has 7mm vs 9mm sleeves. But with a GE blockguard all is well.


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The B18 will only be slightly faster than a B16 up to 3rd gear, when the B16 pulls away due to a beter top end.

 

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That is until you throw on the GSR or B16 head and whip up all over the B16.

 

b20! hah i don't wanna build the block too much just wanted to get a lil more power.. definetly not a race machine :-) but when i wanna call on it its there.. would b20 still be the route to go or??

 

word!! bump for a jersey guy!! great adventure is the shat!

 

i see.. hmmm..

 

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That is until you throw on the GSR or B16 head and whip up all over the B16. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that is until your motor blows because you just slapped on a gsr or b16 head without properly building your motor to rev to 8k

 

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that is until your motor blows because you just slapped on a gsr or b16 head without properly building your motor to rev to 8k </TD></TR></TABLE>

Alright smart guy I just thought Id let you know that I dont have a built bottom end and I have a stock b18a bottom end and I have a stock b16a head. I havent had any probs with my motor and neither has my friend with my same setup that has had his for about 40k miles now. My point is that there are some instances where you dont have any probs at all with just putting the head on.

 

is it even worth it you think? i mean 140 hp... when b16 is much better..


If you plan on just putting the motor in and not doing much work to it then yes the b16 would be quicker but if you plan on working this motor then by all means the b18 is a good motor to boost..it's all up to you on how much you wanna spend on your project and what you are looking for in a end result

 

are you reading this thread? b16 is not much better. I will work a b16. my car with out the nitrous. mods being ... 91 LS, crower cams, aem intake, dc 4.2.1 headers, straight pipe, trust exhaust, act 4 puck clutch. thats just the mods that really matter. besides that lets talk about reliabitly and when somthing goes wrong how much cheaper and easier it is to get parts for the LS. for example. the dizzy. i got ppl hittin me up everyday for b16 dizzys. ls dizzy you can get anywhere. now on the highway your right. a b16 is better. but on the street.. from a light.. ill will destroy a b16.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NitrousDreamz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but on the street.. from a light.. ill will destroy a b16.</TD></TR></TABLE>

define "destroy"

 

I think he prolly means KICK THE B16's *** til about 3rd gear.

 

well maybe you dont drive it the way he might, it has been proven that a b18 with a b16 head cant handle 8k revs all day long like a normal motor can, just becuase it works for u doesnt mean it will work for him.

and your right, im am the smart guy im not running a lsvtec on a stock block ****** face.

 

on the street ~~ from the light . b16 never has a chance to get the top end in to the race. now on the track maybe a different story. i dont drive my ls that hard but since i put in the cams i cant help takin it to 8 grand sometimes. but i believe on a 1/4 mile run between ls and b16 i think you can make a big enough gain on the bottom end to win. i guess of course it depends on driver, tires, clutch, and all that.

 

You are from Jackson? What color is you rex?Because some punk keeps dropping his clutch at the stop sign on MY corner and I wanna know who it is.....Is your hoop white?..or white/black?

 

.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well maybe you dont drive it the way he might, it has been proven that a b18 with a b16 head cant handle 8k revs all day long like a normal motor can, just becuase it works for u doesnt mean it will work for him.

and your right, im am the smart guy im not running a lsvtec on a stock block ****** face.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats aight but when I whip your b16 *** then you can call me a ****** face or cheese dick or what ever you want. It still wont make your car any faster calling me those names

 

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well my friends has a B20B on his integra..... i raced him a few times and i always take him off the line until like 90-95 mphs... after that his torque pulls a lil more than me and he passes me....

 

I have a 91 B18A in my DX with a J1 (b16a tranny) and I ran a 15.8@86.4 mph at 5200 ft. Corrected for sea level that is a 14.7@92 mph. I thought this was pretty good. There were two B16A powered EG's at the track and the fastest one was a 15.8. I think the EG's are lighter anyway. There was also a brand new Mustang GT on slicks and his best time was a 15.9. I love the B18A torque.

 

cool, your local,

i didnt notice that, im sure your car could beat mine, but dont expect your motor to last as long as mine. anyhow, i might be going to ennis friday look for me, im trying to iron out my gremlins and see how my car does.