I just lowered my car on H&R Sports last week and already I have pretty bad negative camber on the fronts. I know that every time one messes with the suspension, an alignment must be done. However, I also heard that it'll be useless without a camber kit. Now my question is, should I get a camber kit now and do an alignment after installing it, or just get an alignment anyway and hope that fixes it?

Right now I'm saving up for shocks, but methinks the camber kit is more important now.

 

no wait untill you have everything???

 

Hrm yeah, it is kinda steep...$40 is hard to come by

 

get the camber kit first then do the alignment. If you get the alignement first youll still have the camber but your car wont steer off as much as it does right now. But then when you do get a camber kit and install it youll have to do an alignment again.

 

It depends on if you think you really need a camber kit. I run about -2.4 degrees of camber in the front with minimal problems. I paid about $80 for an alignment at firestone. To solve your problem, try to get a lifetime alignment plan, it's a little more, but then you can get it aligned any time you want. I'm also saving up for some shocks, and considering how my tires are holding up, I'm going to go for the shocks before I get a camber kit.

 

get the shocks, the camber kit, then the alignment..

otherwise, if you get the camber kit... then the alignment... then the shocks... then you'll have to get another alignment done... but that all depends on how soon you'll be getting the shocks and camber kit.

 

As long as the ride height doesn't change, you don't have to get an alignment if you just change the shocks (and keep the same springs on there). I've had H&R Sports w/o camber kit for over a year now, also w/o problems. BTW the springs lowered my car 2.5-3".

 

Buy the camber kit asap. I just noticed the inner side of my tires are going bald and wish I ordered a camber kit along with my suspension setup.

 

well camber doesn't wear your tires as bad as toe...does the toe look way off? if so, i would recommend you getting an alignment done right now. that is, unless you don't care about the tires on your car right now...late

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Well if you go to a "GOOD" alignment shop, they will be able to adjust the camber for you with out you having to buy that camber kit. Any good shop with alot of experience should be able to perform this for you. Also if you are getting tires any time soon, get those before you get that alignment. Good luck!

 

Toe doesn't look bad, I'm mostly concerned with the camber because of the left front. I park somewhat tilted to the left (uneven ground) so there is more weight on the front left strut.

I'm really getting mixed feelings about this. The only thing I'm sure of is that I need an alignment soon, but don't know if I should purchase a camber kit or shocks now.

 

get the camber kit and alignment first. It will save you tires whether they are getting eatin up or not. Worry about the shocks later. I'm running neuspeed race springs w/ kyb gr2's and just got a camber kit about 1500 miles after the drop. I know the shocks aren't the greatest but i guess they will hold up a little longer thant eh stock ones, even if they are no better than teh stock ones. They are 50000 miles newer. Anyways, i say camber kit, alignment, shocks...

 

hmm, ill be dropping my car next week on some kyb agx's and ground control coilovers. Im wondering if i will need a camber kit or not? Im only gonna drop it about 1.5"-2" and i have no clue about camber kits. Can someone give me a description on what a camber kit does and how you know if you need one if you do. Thanks.

 

Basically if you drop any lower than 1.7", you're gonna need a camber kit.

 

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that's not necessarily true. there are other variables that could/would affect the amount of camber you get/have after lowering your car...for example, the condition of all your rubber suspension bushings...

just wanted to clarify...late

 

I just changed my setup from sagging Neuspeed sports to a nice eibach pro kit. I had a 1-3 degree camber kit in and set it to 1 degree and my camber was perfectly within spec for the front. It was probably enough that could have been adjusted for without it, but I feel much better having it in there and not having the cars adjustment maxed out.

Do the camber kit ASAP. It's cheap and if you did your springs yourself then the camber kit will be very simple.

 

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Sorry, it's not happening on any Civic or Integra, at least not on the front. On the rear you can use shims or washers up to a point, but for the front there is no camber adjustment whatsoever unless you get aftermarket parts.

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I doubt you will need a camber kit as long as you get the toe set to EXACT factory specs.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dom93hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Basically if you drop any lower than 1.7", you're gonna need a camber kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>

negative, I'm dropped somewhere in the 2.5-3" range, no camber kit, and I went 25K miles w/o any excessive tire wear (tires already had 15K when the suspension was installed, so 40K total on that set).

As for have the camber exactly in spec, I would rather run a bit more negative than spec, as it will greatly help the car's handling. If you have an adjustable kit, I would dial it in to somewhere between -1.5 to -2 deg. camber in front. If the toe is set to spec and you rotate tires often, you shouldn't have any problems.