Been looking for a GOOD price on Phillips 4300k HID kits. Found a Groupbuy on 4100k kits here - http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.aspx?id=9668
I emailed and asked if they had 4300k kits. He said they did. But their webpage only said 4100k and 6000k. I dont want anything lower than 4300k as I heard it could be yellowish. He rights back this:

"The HID kits I am offering are 4100K. Philips rates their bulbs
at 4100K and sells them as 4100K xenon bulbs. 4300K is usually a
marketing gimmick as there is no such thing as a 4300K Philips
xenon bulb. "

Is this true? Something smells fishy here.

 

That does seem kind of weird. I have never heard of that before, and I doubt anyone else has on here.

 

Ask MTK Kommander - that guy knows his HID's.

 

4300K will be yellowish either way. It's not completey white unless you choose to get 6000K which you start to lose the lumen intensity significantly. The 4300K looks great with projector headlights. With my non-projector the 4300K has a hint of yellow but it's still a lot whiter then any other halogens out there.

 

i dont want yellow at all. ive had tons of people tell me 4300k isnt yellow and had some tell me 4300k is yellowish..

 

According to Philips, their 4100k bulb is 3200lm bright (+/-450lm) and 4100K colortemp (0.380x 0.390y) on the colour spectrum

Regards,

Steve

 

I got the 4300k kit from Trevor at Visual Dynamics. They do not look yellow at all. When you first turn them on, they have a bluish tint, then they light up to a bright white. Kinda like a flourescent light.

 

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Is your headlight projector?

 

MTK Kommander told me the 4300k is actually rated at 4100k, just its more commonly refered to as 4300k sometimes even 4250k. I dont know who the hell started calling it something other than what it is but they are jackasses!

 

It started as 4100K but suddenly everyone started to call them 4300K.

 

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I'm using the same Phillips D2S bulbs used in all OEM projector applications, and it does not look yellow at all. From far away it looks bright white w/ a slight blue hue, just like factory HID.

 

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I started that rumor, and MTK learns from me...


J/K. 4300k is a gimmick, it's actually 4100k. Just another person confirming.

 

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Um...whatever man. Its funny that all the OEMs Acura TL, BMW, Lexus, MB use a lower K rating and they always have a blueish tint. Its also funny that any HIDs I see that are 6k+ always look purple.

 

Thanks for the confirmations guys! Im just gonna go ahead and get the 4100K/4300K whatever D2S kit. I can get them at a great price anyways. As long as you guys using the same kit all say its not yellow Im happy!

Heres the group buy Im ordering them from in case anyone else is looking for a great price on Phillips HIDs
http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.aspx?id=9668

 

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Um...whatever man. Its funny that all the OEMs Acura TL, BMW, Lexus, MB use a lower K rating and they always have a blueish tint. Its also funny that any HIDs I see that are 6k+ always look purple.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Color variations between OEM applications are solely from differences in the optics of the headlight housing, be it reflector, projector, whatever.

 

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Is your headlight projector?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup. I had a S2K next to me tonight. The color of the light output was pretty much the same.

 

I have the exact same kit as shown in the link. It is great quality, and for that price grab it!

 

check out http://www.hidforum.com. they know their stuff about hids. i got some 4300k catz from http://www.liteswap.com. i dont have any hint of yellow at all, but instead all white.

 

That's a pretty good price. I say go with it.

 

just to throw in my .02, I have the Hella 7000k purple HID kit, and it illuminates everything! i love it, and the color when the car is coming down the road is badass!

 

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Yup. I had a S2K next to me tonight. The color of the light output was pretty much the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Phillips HID in halogen housing vs. S2000. Notice how much more even and widespread the S2000 lights put out, vs. the hotspots in front of the Integra. No, the Integra's lights are NOT brighter than the S2000.

 

patrick, would the reflector vs. projector housing have anything to do with dispersion? i'm still debating between using equipment from a wrecked TL with D2R bulbs for my JDM 1-pieces, and i would think that dispersion would differ between types. perhaps that explains some (obviously not all) of the difference between the OEM S2000 and your Phillips. that's my 2.39 yen.

 

Both my car and the S2000 has projectors, and you can see the difference in beam pattern. It's just the shape of the reflectors and stuff in there that makes it different.

 

if you look at the picture sof the s2000 and then the teg by itself you can clearly see a true projector and a.. semi projeector.. a true projector will have a super clean cutoff and also will leave a rainbow of colors right on the edge.. and this also.. answers to some of your questions regarding to seeing 5000-6000k bulbs looking purple.. cars like audi uses a distinct projector housing that right on the edge of it gives a purple hue.

 

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It's because of the projector housing. Take any non-projector and you'll get a hint of yellow which I like to cut out. Probably one of the best kits out there are Bellof from Japan although they cost $700-$800 for the kit still to this day. They have a very strict company rules that not very many companies can carry them. Dealers have to have an installation facility & a certified tech or else Bellof doesn't even sell to them. I'm thinking to get that + HID fog lights (a lot of fog here) made by Raybrig...two HID's don't sound too bad