I have a 96 integra ls and i had an awesome run going so i wanted to try even harder in the slamons and not good...started sliddin to my left over corrected and just kept spinning. It took like 5 minutes for my car to start. I would turn the key and it would just keep sputtering like nothing wanted to catch. anybody else have a problem like this. BTW i drive 96 integra turbocharged

 

I think there are three options, either some wire(s) was loose and it made contact after trying to start for a while, or your starter/solenoid was over heated OR, most likely, you were low on gas and sucked air into the line when the pick-up was out of the gas while your car was going ape ****

 

if you spun out and didnt put "two feet in" meaning brake and clutch, you could have screwed up your motor.

 

Most people say its due to an overheated starter, but I spun once @ Sebring and my instructor told me it was actually due to the gravitational force pulling the gas out of the line...everyone here thinks thats a bunch of crap though.

 

5 minutes? I dont know.

30 seconds? You sucked some air in to the fuel pump and didnt go both feet in when you spun.

 

Flooded the motor trying to restart?

 

It's because you didn't get the clutch down in time. Trust me... I've spun enough times to know that if you get the clutch down in time, your motor will still be running.

Warren

 

That's what he means, if you don't put the clutch in you run the risk of running the motor backwards and destroying it - saw it happen to a Porsche carrera that wiped out at 90+mph

 

Wow, i've done that before...
Car spun the opposite direction off a countersteer (yeah i got scared and lifted...n00b) and stalled going backwards before I could get the clutch down
I never realized how lucky I was till this thread
She started right back up

 

Jacob where did you spin at Sebring?

 

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T15. The right turn after the long, fast as hell double left-handed sweeper. It was my first (maybe 2nd time) there and I went in too hot. Wasnt a big deal, I was able to feel the limit, though. Spins without any damage---learning experience.

 

would it hurt the engine at all if the car is put in neutral and brake rather than pressing both clutch and brake down?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 216.226.142.95:27016 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would it hurt the engine at all if the car is put in neutral and brake rather than pressing both clutch and brake down?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I doubt that. The main concern here is that the drive wheels are mechanically disconnected to the crankshaft of the engine, and shifting to neutral will still give you that disconnection.

 

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I doubt that. The main concern here is that the drive wheels are mechanically disconnected to the crankshaft of the engine, and shifting to neutral will still give you that disconnection.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually no, iirc, when the car is in neutral the engine IS connected to the drive shaft. this is the whole idea behind the 'double clutch' downshift procedure.

dont know about the spinning part though.

 

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actually no, iirc, when the car is in neutral the engine IS connected to the drive shaft. this is the whole idea behind the 'double clutch' downshift procedure.

dont know about the spinning part though.
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Right, but what I'm saying is that the engine is spinning independently of the drive wheels. My bad.

 

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This skill will make you 1 to 2 laps per lap faster

 

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I'll add a 4th option. Most cars these days have a pressure sensor on the oil lines that will cut the fuel pump if oil pressure drops below 2-5psi. Its for safety reasons if you're involved in an accident...if the motor stops, you don't want the pump feeding all kinds of gas to a hot engine. My theory is that maybe during the spin you managed to put a bubble in the oil line near the sensor and so it wasn't injecting fuel until the air bubble cleared. Check your oil level: when my cavalier gets 1qt low I can get the oil light to flicker during a spin. That's my 0.02 euros.

 

yea i think it was my fuel because i have a fuel pump and it started making the noise when it tries to push air through it...and then i could hear fuel catch and it started...thanks guys

 

i spunout once. i got so scared i just let go of everything .... not the smartest decision in my life...

 

i remember when i spun out... don't think i stepped in clutch and brakes... i just let gravity take me... started right back up but scared the **** out of me!

 

So if you spin and don't put 2 feet in, what will specifically happen to the motor besides possibly bending the valves?

 

It happened to Damon Hill's Williams-Renault FW18 in 1996...spun the car and the wheels went backwards. They ended up replacing the RS8 3.0 V10.

 

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actually no, iirc, when the car is in neutral the engine IS connected to the drive shaft. this is the whole idea behind the 'double clutch' downshift procedure.

dont know about the spinning part though.
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the engine is still connected to the transmission but the transmission gears are not connected to the differental (and axles)


car could be going downhill 100mph backwards and it will still idle while doing that if its in neutral.


its just disconnecting the engine from the wheels a little later in the chain rather than at the clutch.

 

What are you supposed to do if you spin in an automatic? Put the car in neutral as soon as possible? I spun once and left the car in gear(didn't know what to do). It didn't turn off or anything. Could it be the tq absorbed the energy from the spin?

 

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Automatics are different, they will kick down into neutral.