Ok, Since i didn't get an ans from my relic post, i'll try a brand new one. This is for everyone that says h23 is better for boosting than h22...( c/p from last thread ).

" Alot of people say it's better to get a h23 if your going for boost and h22 if your going all motor. What doesn't make sense to me is, if your building the h22 wouldn't it make it better than the h23 for boost ? ( relying on niedjbe (sp) posts on vtec helps ). I'm so torn on which would be better for me with what i want ( inevitably boost ). I want to keep the motor in the car while i save for the turbo build up. Then i'll be resleeving, installing pistons, rods, the turbo blah, blah the next time the engine is out so wouldn't that make the h23 obsolete or am i missing something ? Plz help a guy in need. Plz base ans's on having the h22 tranny until the build/turbo then switching to h23 tranny. "

I'm stuck on the reasoning why everyone says the h22 is better all motor when ( from my guess ) it would be better than the h23 when a build up is applied.


Ok, So there it is. If mods lock this plz at least send me a message why ( maybe i'll get the ans somehow ).

 

If your just gonna slap the turbo on and drive around, go with the H23. Its cheaper, less crap, no dyno tuning, etc. But if your gonna build, tune, add to, etc., then go with H22. H22 will yeild ultimate power.

 

also look into a F22 DOHC, they are the same as the h23 in my eyes and are cheaper at times.

 

thankz Wont, i had a feeling it came down to that but i just wanted to clarify. I guess h22 it is.


: OT VENT : I'm sick of people shittin on the accord and giving respect to preludes when we're lighter than them stock and faster with thier engine. Oh the accord is a fat POS, then turn around...DAMN did you see that turbo lude ? That **** was sweet ! : /OT VENT :

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by info101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also look into a F22 DOHC, they are the same as the h23 in my eyes and are cheaper at times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah? Go find me a price quote on the DOHC F22. H23's go for $500 in good condition.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleepersOwn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">: OT VENT : I'm sick of people shittin on the accord and giving respect to preludes when we're lighter than them stock and faster with thier engine. Oh the accord is a fat POS, then turn around...DAMN did you see that turbo lude ? That **** was sweet ! : /OT VENT :</TD></TR></TABLE>
You ever driven a Prelude? Its a totally different experience. The Prelude is more of a drivers' machines.

 

Well, i've never driven/been in one but, the people i talk about haven't either. I just get upset when people down cars that are able from cars that are already at that point. It makes me wonder their point in involvment with the import performance scene.

 

I used to have a 92 Accord EX, now I have a 92 Prelude Si 4WS, and I can only say the only thing keeping Preludes and Accords near each other is the straight line speed. Everything else that is performance based is dominated by the Prelude.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wont be beat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your just gonna slap the turbo on and drive around, go with the H23. Its cheaper, less crap, no dyno tuning, etc. But if your gonna build, tune, add to, etc., then go with H22. H22 will yeild ultimate power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have wanted to drive a prelude pretty badly since I h'ed the accord just to see what the diferene is like. I know of several other former accord owners that switched to a lude and every single one all said the accord couldnt touch it stock for stock mod for mod. I personally belive them they are two differnt car designed for two differnt purposes. One to be family and gas friendly the other to be more performance orented. I have often had thoughts about finding a decent shape 4th gen and having fun with it or getting a 5th gen. Then again that is a completly differnt thread in and of its self. Good luck with your plans!

 

The seats are worth the price of admission alone.

 

I've never gotten to drive a prelude 'hard', but just from sitting in it its really different than an accord. its like a cockpit. really neat...

 

family car=accord
sports car=prelude

normally.
But everything can be made one way or the other.

 

93accordEX:

Are you going to PM me about our deal ever? I thought you had possibly went out of town or something, but after searching your participated topics I see that you've been around these past 6 days. You should probably PM me or call me soon so we can figure out when you're going to pick up the car. Thanks.

 

does anyone know a website that has the h23?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by greenmachinex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know a website that has the h23?</TD></TR></TABLE>I dont I would try local junkyards to be honest. There seem to be plenty of h23's avlible here where I live.

 

thanks alot hybrid, i want the h23 because i'm goin turbo soon...do you know how much they're asking by any chance?

 

hey also so you guys are saying if i were to turbo a h22a you wouldnt see much out of a prelude h22 as you you would see out of a h23. Its because the bottom end is stronger than the h22 right? Also you dont see that many preludes and if you do they are normal or beat to ****. how can people just let that happen to their cars.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wont be beat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah? Go find me a price quote on the DOHC F22. H23's go for $500 in good condition.</TD></TR></TABLE>

$500 H23's? wheeeeeeeeeeeeeere????

 

If you wanna build the motor then go either way, the h23 would be a cheaper starting point though. If you just wanna slap a turbo on something get an h22 or leave in the f22. h23's don't run right in the first place.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preluder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey also so you guys are saying if i were to turbo a h22a you wouldnt see much out of a prelude h22 as you you would see out of a h23. Its because the bottom end is stronger than the h22 right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, not at all.

 

To " Preluder "

Ayo mike man whats good, it's K-O. Yo, i couldn't **** with ya man on that accord. Son said the motor was damn near shot, and it would only make it to my mans crib and prolly die out there. I need something better than that. I'ma just get my POS hoop ride and run with that while i save for the boosted h series

Edit: Oh yea, and mike, " Wont " is saying the h23 would be a better stock starter because of the compression ratio, the h23's is lower ( 9:8:1 ) vs the h22's 10:6:1 , plus the addition of being able to run untuned, then when you get dyno tuned, you wouldnt have to sit through vtec compensation. The internals are pretty much the same ( as far as strength goes ). Am i right Wont ?


Modified by SleepersOwn at 12:42 AM 4/14/2003

 

psyphre, " Wont be beat " just explained how the h23 would be better to just slap the turbo on. I had the same conclusion just wanted to verify with someone that knew what they were talking about. You would have more work to do slapping on a turbo to a h22 than with a h23 ( stock for stock that is ).

 

H23 for $800 even would be a bargain and a half....and that's just the longblock.

 

Find someone that did a swap on their Prelude Si. Simple as that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by greenmachinex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks alot hybrid, i want the h23 because i'm goin turbo soon...do you know how much they're asking by any chance?</TD></TR></TABLE>Pretty cheap usually. Around 400-500 easy with tranny and all. Also for what its worth I noticed mention of the H23 bottom end. In stock form its pretty weak from what most my research has shown me. Its not ment to be reved high (not that the H22 isnt either) and it spins rod bearings more offten than not. Its actually quite a common problem it seems. Now weather its due to a weak bottom end or idiots reving their honda too the moon just because its a honda is unknown to me.