I went to the track this weekend and very disapointed w/ my times. Before I say what my times were. What should I be running the 1/4 mile in?

 

just h22 and greddy exhaust? high 14's - low 16's

 

okay b/c I'm running high 15's

 

you suck lol. jfwi. I ran 16 flat with my 18" tires. should hopefully get to like 15.7ish next time I go to the track. oh thats f22 power with bolt ons. I gave those times because there are so many conditions though that can affect. but if you have no cels or any other problems with your swap then I would say you should definetly be faster. why dont you write out the whole time slip and explain your setup a little more?

 

I agree don't be shy my first time at the track i only ran a 16.1 so its all good just takes pratice and being able to get the H22 to hook up at the track

accordhybrid

 

Yeah don't worry, with some practice, and as soon as you start "feeling" your car, you should go into low 15s, high 14s.

 

see kasp, i told you. just get a little more traction and practice, practice, practice.

 

Alright, well hopefully they will get better b/c I was really disapointed w/ the times but it was fun and was my first time on a track. Is having the h22 manual ecu and not the automatic ecu hurting me in any way as is right now???

 

It's an automatic? If it is why are you even taking it to the track?

 

An auto can be fast as long as it is built correctly and you are not neutral bombing it.

 

What does it matter if its stick or automatic to run it at the track?

 

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My point exactly... when built right an automatic can outshift a human any day of the week. I plan on building the tranny up and going turbo. So there for I went w/ the auto tranny.

 

Autos suck, even if you do build the **** out of your engine the stock honda trannys do "alright" but wont last long and you would never be able to compete with a manual tranny car with the exact same mods. Sorry dude i just hate automatics

 

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You've obviously never seen an automatic car built up right. I have a friend who's dad builds up imports in his spare time and b/c he just has money to blow. He has 2 honda preludes w/ the exact same mods but one is an automatic that has been built up. It puts down better 1/4 mile times than the manual and is a whole lot more consistent than the manual

 

Yes I agree, but how fun is it to just put the pedal to the floor and hold it there?
...boring... plus they suck for street racing or just driving for fun.

 

if it was a track only car with crazy power than fine go auto. but its obviously not so dont try to justify that as the reason you stayed auto. i mean if you had a manual to start would you swap to auto? I respect your decision to keep it like that though for whatever reason, I just know i never would. also knowing this im thinking you might not break into the 14's. but probably low 15's is possible.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brodsterH22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes I agree, but how fun is it to just put the pedal to the floor and hold it there?
...boring... plus they suck for street racing or just driving for fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>

have you ever heard of Level10 Shiftronic? Take a look here:
http://www.levelten.com

and for what you pay for a stronger clutch and a lighter flywheel, our "slow automatics" could tear you a new one.

Not trying to be a d!ck, just informing. I like them both just the same.

 

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have you ever heard of Level10 Shiftronic? Take a look here:
http://www.levelten.com

and for what you pay for a stronger clutch and a lighter flywheel, our "slow automatics" could tear you a new one.

Not trying to be a d!ck, just informing. I like them both just the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Appreciate you backing me up on this one b/c it seems that I'm going to be getting a lot of grief for staying automatic. For those that were doubting the automatic this is what is being done to my car. Check out the above link. Once I have this done along with the other bolt-ons I'm planning I will have the choice of shifting or just plain driving. Which will be a lot easier than trying to drive in this stop and go traffic on the highways around here before/after work. Once I go turbo this will be even better

 

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Appreciate you backing me up on this one b/c it seems that I'm going to be getting a lot of grief for staying automatic. For those that were doubting the automatic this is what is being done to my car. Check out the above link. Once I have this done along with the other bolt-ons I'm planning I will have the choice of shifting or just plain driving. Which will be a lot easier than trying to drive in this stop and go traffic on the highways around here before/after work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no prob., we all get grief if we praise an A/T. you did, i did, and a member that hasnt been on in a while (BIG JAMES) did. it's all cool though, to each his own. you just have to teach.

 

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You obviously know nothing about racings theories and traction, dont listen to this guy kasper. Please dont go mouthing off, thinking you know everything about racing, its a sign of ignorance.

 

Yeah, automatics are not as good as 5 speed. Sure they can be, but 5 speed can kill automatics on the line...its happened to me over and over and over. I have an automatic and I drive it because its the only car I have right now. I was going to change the transmission type but realized it'd be easier to get a new car....so thats what I'm gonna do. BTW, could you really tell a difference in performance w the h22?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by greenmachinex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, automatics are not as good as 5 speed. Sure they can be, but 5 speed can kill automatics on the line...its happened to me over and over and over. I have an automatic and I drive it because its the only car I have right now. I was going to change the transmission type but realized it'd be easier to get a new car....so thats what I'm gonna do. BTW, could you really tell a difference in performance w the h22?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Not true, infact, way off. Why? Automatics are only shitty in hondas because of the wide gearing and only 4 gears on such a peaky motor. Had the honda automatic been 5 gears, and as short as a five speed, along with the same final drive, it would not be as user friendly as it should be. No doubt, anything with a tighter torque converter and high line pressure will blow a 5 speed out of the water. Check out the LS1's, any bpu or APU supra, the autos when done right will blow the M6's out of the water. Only in the honda game will the 5 speed always prevail.

Obviously you've never done an auto to manual swap, its not that hard, infact, its pretty basic.

 

I'm not taking sides. But let us not forget the higher parasitic losses through an automatic transmission. Two engines (both being equal) will put more power to the ground in a 5 speed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stew Pidasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not taking sides. But let us not forget the higher parasitic losses through an automatic transmission. Two engines (both being equal) will put more power to the ground in a 5 speed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

True. but also let's not forget that with the aftermarket products available, the loss isnt really part of the game anymore.

Now I agree, in stock form the A/T loses a chit load of power, and cant keep up with a M/T. but I'm not talkin' stock here.

Peace y0!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by greenmachinex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> BTW, could you really tell a difference in performance w the h22?</TD></TR></TABLE>

There's a big difference in performance w/ the h22 over the f22. I definetley am glad I did it. Although I am not happy with my 1/4 times it can only get better. I've got those JBL 12's in my trunk w/the amp and stuff which is being taken out this weekend. Also next time I go to the track I'll take that full size spare out. I wasn't planning on running so I had all of that stuff in the trunk