hello everyone,

I have just been offered a great deal on a 99 h22a complete swap. I love my b18c5 and have yielded a best quater mile time of 13.8 with minor weight reduction, leaked CAT, and a cut headlight ram intake.

If i went with the h22a would you guys think it would provide quicker quarter mile times?

Also has anyone dropped a h22a into their integra? Can you give me advice as far as what i would need to do to complete this swap. I know i need a mount kit, possible modified shiftlinkage, and will the engine bay plug in...since im running OBD II now?

If anyone can provide any information it would be greatly appreciated. Also if you have a prelude motor in your integra whats your best quarter mile times....

THanks in advance....

 

No, you should not.

 

Reid,

Why don't you think i should go prelude???

 

why not sell your car, buy a hatchback with the H22a motor and go all out with it? If youre a track person, the H22A will weigh your front end down a lot.

 

I noticed that on the prelede forum...someone stated the prelude motor is only 90 lbs heavier.....

Removing, Power Steering Unit, AC, ABS pump and lines, and switching to smaller rotors and using some light weight bogart slicks....instead of stock rims with tires that weight close to 40lbs a piece....far exceeds the 90lbs for sprung or unsprung weight.....

All this i have already done...

 

What Crack You smokin?

 

Yes you should do it, can I have your B18C5? I have a use or two for that engine. hehehe

 

First of all...no i would not be selling my motor.....

If you guys think im crazy fine whatever.....

You guys just dont understand me i guess....i spent a great deal of time putting my car together.... now that it runs....i am bored.... i do not want to build this motor either....

Since i have a really good deal on a 99 h22a i am interested..but im curious if it would yield quicker quarter mile times....than a 13.8 i have already accomplished on street tires.....

Maybe i did not make myself clear.....this car i built from the ground up.....and all i wanna do is go faster without having down time from a build up. So i hope someone can tell me if the prelude swap will do this or not.....and if the wiring will plug rite in..or do i have to modify it....

 

IMO drag racing with your TypeR sound like a waste anyway.

That car is built for road racing, a car which can be taken to the circuit with simple safety mods...

If u're looking for a H22A swap why don't u get a Civic HB and do it? It's even lighter than the DC2 and may do a better time...

Man TypeR motor can be real fast too depends on how u build it. Did u change the gears? Got 98specR final gear set?

 

Of course it will be faster, bigger displacement with the same upgrade possibilities of the B18C...but you will throw off your weight distribution and the overall handling of the car. If you don't care about that, or if you only plan to make it a drag car, then the bigger motor will be of a benefit.

I wouldn't do that to an R though, get a civic to do that in that case...

 

I agree with the consensus... Don't do that to an R. It's meant to turn corners... "only an extra 90 pounds?!?!?!" Why do you think that Honda put in a lighter, thinner windshield? Why is your spare tyre cover plastic instead of fibre-board (It weighs about 2 lbs less)

Honda built this car in such a manner that every pound counts. Letting a fat person sit on the hood would adversely affect handling. Same with stuffing a bunch of extra weight up front. If you've got your heart set on an H22. Buy a beater and stuff it into that. Please don't @#!% up the R!!!


[Modified by Its_real&its_spectacular, 8:09 PM 6/23/2001]

 

First off, the chasis is not a type R, it is a 1997 ls shell. As far as weight goes, the car is being transformed into a trailer queen at this very moment.

Some of you are wondering why i have a type R motor...well i bought a mangled type R which after i sold quite a few parts was actually quite reasonable.

I am a drag racer... and only care to go straight. Now can some of you answer some of my questions??

Thanks...

 

Well that just clears everything up. In that case, go for it.

 

i cant seem to see why the chassis alone would make a difference.....if i could find a type R shell i would have used that instead... the interior looks so clean without the sound deadening crap....that stuff is so ugly even with it removed

 

Then if that's the case go H22. As for the wiring, yes it will plug up to all the sensor on the H22. There are a few things like EGR you not be using. You may use the Type R ECU.

 

One more thing- the alternator wires might have to be modified cause the H22a alternator is in the front of the engine.

 

Accordking,

so the only wires that need to be modified...as in maybe lengthened are the alternator plugs/wires??

Hey i saw your car at hot import nights....that thing is sweet!!! best looking accord i have ever seen.... then again im only into drag cars....

Have you weighed the car yet?? if i remember correctly you cut a lot of metal out too....

Are you going to run at CMI?? Hmmm if all goes well...maybe ill try running this prelude motor.....hopefully ill be able to test it before to see if it lowers my times..if not...all nighter dumping the b18c5 back in.....


O yeah...so there will be a few plugs that wont be plugged in??? also whats the advantage if i use a type R ecu...or gsr...versus the prelude??



[Modified by allmotorC5, 4:22 AM 6/24/2001]

 

Now that I know where you are coming from I say go with the h22.

James

 

ITrhybrid,

i dont get it, what difference would it make, what car model the chassis is???

 

allmotorC5,

Let me ask you this...do YOU think you should take out your motor and put in a H22? You seem like you want to do this because you are a drag racer. So, why don't you just do it? Tell us how you like it after you have done the swap. Good luck.

-kenji

 

Kenji,

You are right I am going to end up doing this. However, i am concerned as to when. August 10 & 11th or 11th and 12th are the next races in my area, northern cali. I am planning on breaking into the 12s. The only thing that would remain constant as far as preparations go, would be working on weight reduction.

Now i have a decision to make, continue tuning my b18c5 or begin gathering parts for the h22a swap.

Depending on if anyone has experience and would like to share then im pretty much at a stand still at this moment. This is why im asking and also looking into what i need inorder to complete this swap.

 

I don't think you're crazy, but I do think that you missing the whole concept of why the type R is the way it is. I appreciate the fact that you want more power from your car, and I think everyone here shares your feelings. However putting a heavier engine such as a the H22A into an Integra or a Civic is not going to impove its performance. Consider that the H22a is rated at 215ps (stock) and the B18c5 produces 200ps (stock)...that's only a 15ps difference. The 15ps + 90lbs additional weight really cancels each other out in the HP department...whereas in the handling department as well as the braking departing, you are going to take a severe hit...90lbs more is like having another peron in the car with you at all times.

Now...my suggestion for more power is to sell the H22a and try a forced induction setup ...its much more bang for the buck! With a bit more work you will gain up to 100hp with the B18c5 and maintain your agility.

 

miriaZ: h22a is only rated at 200ps here. the advantage will be the torque but even that isnt worth it imho

allmotorc5: you wont go that much faster. maybe 13.5 at best with the h22a over your current motor i think. to answer your question, these people care about the chassis because they are ****. they believe the R holds so much more prestige than a regular integra. they can think what they want, but the only opinion that matters is the car's owner's

 

I think that this should have been in your first post to give us an idea of what you are planning to do. in this case, I wouldn't see why not. If you're only planning on it being a drag car. But, I still don't think it's going to make a big of difference as you think. Just my .02

 

I was not talking about the chassis. I was talking about the intended use.


[Modified by itrhybrid, 11:38 AM 6/24/2001]