Has anyone here driven on this configuration of this track yet, by chance?

If so, can you please post pics/vids/thoughts/impressions/hints/etc?

Thanks in advance-

Jon

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=315277

here is my review copied from that thread

will add my own impressions here:
Saturday was rain, so didnt get a good feel for the track until it dried out on sunday.
First off, its a very fun track. Easy to pick up, but gets very challenging as speeds come up (what track doesnt?)
My favorite part of the track is by far turn 1-5. Just as fun as rollercoaster.

Some of the more difficult parts:
Turn 7 - right hander at the top of a hill leading on to the back straight. , proper turn in is just after the crest of the hill. Every time I went in and turned there the car wanted to swap ends. I ended up turning in a little early with a little less speed and hugged the inside curbing. I left a lot of speed in this corner, but I wanted to drive the car home. I would be interested in how other people took this corner. Definately one to work on.

2nd kink - turn 9. Think of CMP kink with no hump. Practically no run-off room if you screw this up. I went in conservatively each time. again, wanted to drive the car home.

Turn 10-11. I just couldnt find a good line. Even going in conservatively to the kink I still had a hard time getting the speed down for 10, so often times I went in hot.
The double apex didnt work too well for me, what I ended up doing was apexing mid track on 10, set the wheel and let it carry me through the rest of the corner. Another one that could use some work.

I ran 1:12s on street tires and I know I left a lot of time out there, so its a pretty quick track.

oh yeah, that pennsylvania turnpike is complete bullshit. I cant believe they charged me $6 to drive on that peice of crap, pothole ridden dumpster alley. I am sure I bent at least one rim on it

Evan

there are some videos here
http://www.sandmracing.com/videos/ (courtesy Aleph) they are the ones that start with 9020BR

 

I'd agree mostly with what Elgorey said.

Turn 4 is fun because there's not much of a straight before it so you almost have to brake while you're still unwinding the wheel from turn 3.

Turn 5 is deceiving because it's a 0 camber uphill turn and if you don't hit it right it'll really mess up your turn 6-7. I found myself drifting wide here a few times which really slowed me down.

Turn 7 is tricky since you can't really see where you're going--you have to either find a visual marker or just feel it out.

8 is a blast, you really pick up speed here

9 is just as fun, ~110-115mph in my GS-R untill...

Turn 10 comes up REALLY quick after that kink, I had a few "oh sh*t" moments after taking 9 a bit too fast. Big brake workout here. I agree that 10 is a hard turn to get right/fast. I ended up taking a pretty late single apex--I stayed near the left side of the track through a good part of the turn and then brought it in so that when I hit my apex I was lined up right with the apex of 11. Check out the video at sandmracing "090202brtim" and you'll see what I mean, sort of--I'm the car in front of Aleph, rolling his R

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by getfast &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If so, can you please post vids?</TD></TR></TABLE>
from the ITR thread.

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"here they are again, no one is allowed to give me crap about my line once the learn the track, this was my first time"

no traffic:
http://www.sandmracing.com/videos/090202bropen.avi

others (last one is BIG)
http://www.sandmracing.com/vid...h.avi

http://www.sandmracing.com/videos/090202brtim.avi

http://www.sandmracing.com/videos/090202brwalt.avi

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some of the more difficult parts:
2nd kink - turn 9. Think of CMP kink with no hump. Practically no run-off room if you screw this up. I went in conservatively each time. again, wanted to drive the car home.

Turn 10-11. I just couldnt find a good line. Even going in conservatively to the kink I still had a hard time getting the speed down for 10, so often times I went in hot.
The double apex didnt work too well for me, what I ended up doing was apexing mid track on 10, set the wheel and let it carry me through the rest of the corner. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Yeah, turn 9 is fast with very little braking zone or runnoff. A couple of times I ended up pretty deep into 10.

 

I have spent 5 track days so far at BeaveRun, and like you guys stated turn 10 and 11 seems to be the hardest section to find a good line. I have driven with several different instructors and even the track manager himself and they all take slightly different lines on this part of the track. I spent a lot of time experimenting on this turn (10 and 11 is really 1 turn). I will try to explain what I found to be the fastest in my car, and you can give it a try next time your up there.

Before the turn get left and slow way way down, slower than what you normally would, and let the car go sum what deep into the turn. Then turn in hard and tight, and apex it somewhat early, right after this apex start to unwind the wheel gradually and go full throttle! If you do this right you can stay full throttle from here all the way to turn 1!! Right after this initial apex, turn the hole thing (10 and 11) into one big increasing radius turn. The car will end up exiting the turn way over to the left, and you will be heading right at the pits. (Note the pits enterance are bebore no 12 not after like in the pick they have) Stay over there!! This seems like your way out of place for the next turn (no. 12) but your not! Just trust me, and keep on the throttle, and excel up the hill and don’t come back right to set up for turn 12, you don’t need to! Now when you hit turn 12 you will fly out to the right but there is plenty of track (even though you cant really see it coming up to turn 12), and if you have good tires you will have no problem staying full throttle all the way on down till you need to slow for turn 1.

Try this a few times, it seems weird, and it seems like your going to fly of the track going into turn 12 but your not going to, and it fast! I will be at the next NASA event at beaver run if any of you guys are there I would love to talk some more about the track, it's a new track the the "best line" is still not really found yet.



Modified by 57STS at 3:01 PM 4/10/2003

 

i live like less than an hour away and i have yet to go I hate college, takes up all my money

 

Go work at the track for a day, you get $75 NASA credit! It's tough to stand there all day and watch people go fast, but it's worth it once you write that check for your first HPDE, believe me