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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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The reason I was asking is because I'm not yet 18 so can't go road racing yet, but I want to be ready for when it comes. So since I don't make a lot of money and want to save up and be ready for road racing when I can I just wanted some experianced opinions. I also want to know what is the best class for a rookie to set up his car for without making an *** of himself. I don't mean to waste anyones time I just don't know where to begin. Sorry to make the moderator mad but i can't sat what type of racing I particpate in since I can't. However in hind sight i should have said that I was a minor in my last post. Thanks for the help. Peace
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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leave it bone stock 100% and learn how to drive.

If you dont know how to drive that suspension isnt going to help you.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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leave it bone stock 100% and learn how to drive.

If you dont know how to drive that suspension isnt going to help you.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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thanks and sorry to bother you, I was just in a hurry to find out whether the Teins my friend was selling was a good buy or not, regardless of skill. Thanks fr your time. Also since I've never driven my GSR on the track I didn't know how the suspension would do, I know its good for a front wheel drive car, it was just all the guys I talk to rave about their aftermarket parts. Once again, thanks for your time
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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Yeah that and putting in a new suspension takes a learning curve also. I'm not getting all i can out of my pimpy new koni/GC setup for sure yet.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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it was just all the guys I talk to rave about their aftermarket parts. Once again, thanks for your time
are they tracking their car?

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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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You don't need to be 18 to autocross.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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My worthless post from your other thread before Mr. ****-Mod Poopie Pants locked it:

Save some money and go with a Koni/GC setup.
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Here is a novel idea - leave it STOCK and learn how to drive the car before you modify the suspension. You would be surprised how fast a stock suspension can get you around a track. That blinging Tien setup isn't going to make you a better driver.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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"tracking?" Do you mean recording lap times. Sorry for the idiocy, like i said, i'm new to suspension.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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"tracking?" Do you mean recording lap times. Sorry for the idiocy, like i said, i'm new to suspension.
are they doing driving schools? are they driving on a track at speed? If they arent then their 'raving' about the suspension is entirely irrelevant for your purposes.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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You don't need to be 18 to autocross.
werd, just a valid license, but depending on where he is, 18 might be the age to get a license. but yah, llearn yer car first
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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ahhh, but you do if your parents refuse to sign a waver. And I'm not gonna forge theirs and get real screwed.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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http://www.scca.org

I am sure there is a region near you in Michigan.

That would be a good place to start.

Don't think about the track doing 120 on the back straight. Think car control first with slow cars staying in second gear. It will help you in the long run. Trust me.

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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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GFCP is going to own AJ this summer......
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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they race regularly, but for now I think i've made asufficent fool of myself with my lack of road race knowledge and I think I'll work on my driving at a track (if I can get on one) before I post again. thanks for the help though.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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ahhh, but you do if your parents refuse to sign a waver. And I'm not gonna forge theirs and get real screwed.
Why not? It's better than doing it on the streets. There was a post that brought up "How to convince your parents autocross is safe" or something to that effect. Use the points made in there on your parents.

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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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thanks ajn. I was going to check it out but all the guys I know who do auto-cross said you had to be 18. Obviously they were mistaken, but thanks again.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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GFCP is going to own AJ this summer......
is that good or bad? (translation-----> is that expensive or fun?)

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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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yeah, I've told 'em a millio times. it just seem they are more concerned about me getting to school on my own than me crashing. Oh well, i just can't wait til I can finally get my beater car and finally go out.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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is that good or bad? (translation-----> is that expensive or fun?)

aj
heh........

just take all of your money and give it away now. save the pain later.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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http://www.detroit-scca.org/

Where in MI are you located. There is sure to be a region in your area.

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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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is that good or bad? (translation-----> is that expensive or fun?)

aj

heh........

just take all of your money and give it away now. save the pain later.
now that sounds like fun to me!
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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I feel your pain Nytemare
I've wanted to auto-x since I was 16...I even showed my parents videos and everything.
I nearly got in trouble when I told them it'd keep me from doing it on the street...bad arguement, don't use that one.

Now that I'm finally almost 19 and have done a couple track days behind their back (stupid idea) I'm selling my car (its in my dads name and I still owe a bit of $$ on it) so I can buy something on my own and really do this stuff.
They STILL don't like the idea of me racing (hpde or w2w...later) but now theres nothing they can do about it...

Waiting sucks, but I'll agree with everybody else, just learn on a stock car.
Or lower the car for looks...but don't confuse the two


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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 06:11 AM
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Nytemare, look at http://www.dcscc.com and http://detroit-scca.org/ for more Detroit area autocross info.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:00 AM
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Everone was a stupid noob at some time. So don't worry about asking questions - I;d rather have you ask them now than bitch about something avoidable later.

My adivce:
1. Buy the SCCA Solo Rulebook, available at scca.org Even if you aren't going to autocross anytime soon, the book will give you a fair indication of what is allowed in which class.

2. I don't know what your finances are like (I imagine non-existant since you're a teenager) - so leaving your car stock is a good idea for autox/track use. Make ity relaible and safe and have fun. You have plenty of time to spend money later.

3. If you really want to start track days, seriously consider buying a track-only car. An old CRX or RX-7 or ??? - all cheap, reliable, and disposable. Very likely less expensive in the long run.

4. If you don't any basic handtools, start buying some (or ask for B-day, Xmas, etc). A good jack, 4 good jackstands, 1/2" drive torque wrench, breaker bar, metric wrenches, metric sockets and rachets, misc scrw drivers and pliers.

5. If you're still in high school, take a semester of auto shop. Buy the shop manual for your car. Start doing your own basic maintenance (oil , brakes, etc). It's all pretty easy - and geting your hands dirty now will prepare you for fixing stuff later.
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