i know this have been asked before, and search just didnt work. If you can point me to that thread, i would appreciate it.

I have tried several times to do it, and it feels very awkward. it's kinda hard to reach the throttle with heel. I'm just wondering if anyone has a special techniques for the ITR.

thanks

 

http://www.turnfast.com/tech_driving..._heeltoe.lasso

You don't necessarily have to actually use the "heel". You can also use the side of your foot and blip the throttle instead. Some people can rotate enough to use the heel and some can't. Some choose to and some don't. It's whatever you feel comfortable with.

Also consider getting some decent aftermarket pedals to extend the throttle pedal. HTH.

 

That site is a good "how-to" although I would recommend some type of aftermarket pedals to make the process a little easier. It is do-able with the stock ITR's but having something to position the gas a brake a little closer together makes it a lot simpler.

 

It's easier if you keep the seat back and your leg relatively "unbent"

How tall are you??

 

you can install an aftermarket gas pedal to make it easier to reach the throttle with your heel. also, it helps to depress the brake pedal higher with your toe making it a bit easier to pivot your heel over to the throttle. the tricky part i think about heel toe is getting the braking down. matching revs should be easy and could be practiced by double clutching when you down shift...good luck and be careful!

 

I use the sides of the foot technique and it works fine on the stock pedals. I ditched the riceboy bling bling pedals with fatty extensions since they were uneccessary and almost made daily driving dangerous as I could hit both at the same time too easily.

I'm not real comfortable with twisting my leg while pulling G's around a race track but some people can just do it. I use the wide portion of my foot and have half of my foot hitting the brake while the other half hits the gas.

 

i think it would be easier if my leg is unbent. but i dont like handling the car while sitting too far back. i'm only 5'9". i need to play around with it more.

 

For $40-50, I highly recommend getting covers that snap or bolt onto your pedals. My Sparco's work great. Now, I don't have to contort my leg to blip the throttle. The only downside with pedal covers is that they alter the braking system to such an extent that the dealer may not warranty any brake components.

 

Practice is the biggest issue here, not 50 dollar pedal covers. Everytime you down shift work on blipping the throttle as well, and every time you need to break and downshift, work on using heel toe, while combining the downshift. Practice it enough, and it will become much more comfortable with you. The stock rubber pads work just fine for me. I doubt I am unusual in this regard, from the rest of the people that work on it.

 

completely agree. my sister dated this guy a couple of years ago that raced touring civics in asia e.g., macau and he taught me to heel toe and to practice with the car shut off, braking and downshifting...be careful and run the technique thru your head before you do it and after a while it will just be natural to heel toe when you downshift. you'll realize how much quicker your car brakes when you to it well and how easy it is with every car...i recently drove a honda element and was heel toe-ing with that toaster around corners

 

The biggest issue isn't how much quicker your car brakes, but not transferring weight to the front so as to not overload the front tires, and underload the rear tires.

 

no one said that braking was the biggest issue.

 

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I agree, but

1st) aftermarket pedals can be a big help

2nd) There is a huge difference in heel/toe while heading for a light in slow traffic and heel/toe on a racetrack. If you speed towards a corner with 220km/h and have brake at the 50m sign violently while quick downshifting and revmatching to 2nd gear, you have to have unblinded trust in your right foot. Because if you slip from the pedal ==&gt;
So practice under race-conditions is the issue

 

Yes, but for a begginer? Which is what this topic was started upon. I was just suggesting that to learn, using it for traffic lights and everyday traffic is great.

Trying it at the track before you even know how to do it?! what?! Talk about a steep learning curve. (I know what you meant, I was just jokin with ya.)

 

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i've never heard of covers altering or affecting braking system performance, anybody else?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hootb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, but for a begginer? Which is what this topic was started upon. I was just suggesting that to learn, using it for traffic lights and everyday traffic is great.

Trying it at the track before you even know how to do it?! what?! Talk about a steep learning curve. (I know what you meant, I was just jokin with ya.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay,
you can learn how to move your foot and how this whole thing works... First time on track and you switch back to the oldschool shifting..
Second time.. getting better.
xxx time on track =&gt; You get used to it

Though I am a practiced heeltoeer, there are situations I feel myself forced to slam the whole foot on the brake pedal, when I overtake another car right before the curve and decide to brake later than normal for example..

 

That is an awesome link. I was always curous about that. Nice writeup to that person!

 

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that's what i call 'late braking'...hehehe

 

i've always done the left side of the foot on the brake right side of the foot on the gas because with my height, 6"1', i couldn't fit my legs under the steering wheel and have my foot angled to heel toe properly.

on the street it's fine because i'm never braking very hard but on the track when you are threshold braking, having a small portion of my foot on the brake does not feel safe.

i recently installed 350mm steering wheel with quick release and this has allowed me to get my leg at the correct angle to heel toe properly. i'm looking forward to being on the track and doing it the proper way.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanceh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are threshold braking, having a small portion of my foot on the brake does not feel safe.

i recently installed 350mm steering wheel with quick release and this has allowed me to get my leg at the correct angle to heel toe properly. .</TD></TR></TABLE>

And that`s exactly what I did

OMP WRC dished steering wheel and Mugen pedals

 

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And that`s exactly what I did

OMP WRC dished steering wheel and Mugen pedals</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahhh, 'omp wrc dished wheel' is to drool over, well, omp itself is

i never thought about the wheel getting in the way of my leg...but now that i do, i didn't start heel toe-ing till i swapped out the stock wheel with a 320mm momo monte carlo...

 

 

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It's easier if you keep the seat back and your leg relatively "unbent"



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Yep, that`s rubbish, because you are to fr away from the wheel and the shifter.

The animated gif is rubbish too, because the brake is located left from the downer end of the acc pedal... So the heel does not touch the acc pedal if you move your foot this way...It hangs loose.

 

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Yep, that`s rubbish, because you are to fr away from the wheel and the shifter.

The animated gif is rubbish too, because the brake is located left from the downer end of the acc pedal... So the heel does not touch the acc pedal if you move your foot this way...It hangs loose.

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