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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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Default CMP Honda Challenge Results (and fast lap times)

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SAT
H1
-John W. 1:57.125
-James E. 1:51.973
-Peter C. 2:00.288
-Sam L. 2:04.397
-Chad S. 1:55.850

H2
-Corey J 1:53.328 (1st overall in small bore)
-Adam C. 1:53.703 (Disq)
-Robert W. 1:55.854
-Jason F. 1:55.326

H3
-Karl S. 1:58.776
-Phil P. 1:58.864

H4
-Lyonel K. 1:57.357
-Ron S. 2:00.999
-Michael S. 2:03.920
-David R. 2:09.138

H5
-Keith E. 2:19.648


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H1
-Chad S. 1:52.034
-James E. 1:49.807
-Sam L. 2:00.297
-John W. 1:54.260

H2
-Corey J 1:52.000 (2nd overall in small bore)
-Jason F. 1:53.263
-Robert W. 1:54.263
-Adam C. 1:52.263

H3
-Phil P. 1:57.911
-Karl S. 1:58.761

H4
-Lyonel K. 1:57.954
-Ron S. 1:58.892
-David R. 2:00.480
-Michael S. 2:02.016

H5
-Keith E. 2:14.643


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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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Just saw them on the NASA site as well, my Jaw dropped, H2 and H1 records were shattered!
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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And Here's the actual paperwork to back those results up: COPY AND PASTE
Saturday's Race: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...5.jpg.orig.jpg
Sunday's Race: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...e.jpg.orig.jpg






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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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SUN

H1-James E. 1:49.807
Oh my!

G'job CJ on the win both days!
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Just saw them on the NASA site as well, my Jaw dropped, H2 and H1 records were shattered!
But H3 wasn't .

Scott, who misses his car.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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Just saw them on the NASA site as well, my Jaw dropped, H2 and H1 records were shattered!

But H3 wasn't .

Scott, who misses his car.
Oh, H3 was shattered, but in a different way.. I'll let one of the H3 boys tell you about that one..
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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what motor is James using? He used to be H4 correct?
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:03 PM
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B18 bottom end w/ CTR pistons, B16 top end and not sure what else. He says he "threw it together with stuff laying around the shop"

That thing was fast as ****.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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But H3 wasn't .
or H5!

Scott, who misses his car.
Matt, who misses having a racecar that runs
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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Oh, H3 was shattered, but in a different way.. I'll let one of the H3 boys tell you about that one..
tap tap tap.... ??

Still waiting!
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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But H3 wasn't
We were too busy hitting each other.

--Karl, who misses his door
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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This would be a perfect opportunity to say that Karl never got close enough to me for us to hit each other. But I'm not going to say that because it would just be mean .

Hey Karl. Congrats on the first win.
Seriously. The first one is always special.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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The H1 and H2 new records are impressive even more when you consider the weather compared to last year. I'd estimate the track was at least 2 seconds slower than the first race last April. That's supported by the H3 cars, which are essentially the same as last years H3 cars, weren't even close to the times they had last year. Last year, Shultz qualified on pole with a 1:55.something. This year, with a better car, 1:58.something.

So, big to H1 and H2 for breaking records despite obvious slower conditions.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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Corey and Evans. Good driving definitely is starting to shows what can be done with quick H1 and H2 cars.

The 1:49 also looks quite nice and shows what a good H1 car is capable of in the right hands.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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I'd estimate the track was at least 2 seconds slower than the first race last April. That's supported by the H3 cars, which are essentially the same as last years H3 cars, weren't even close to the times they had last year.
Was Kent's car any different (aside from the pimpy airdam)? He ran an identical race time I thought.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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That's supported by the H3 cars, which are essentially the same as last years H3 cars, weren't even close to the times they had last year. Last year, Shultz qualified on pole with a 1:55.something. This year, with a better car, 1:58.something.
I would not use H3 as a gauge for your conclusion. Nothing at all against Karl and Phil but Giles and I ran 1:55s in the Aug 3rd and 4th CMP race where it was nearly 20 degrees hotter than this past weekend. Giles blew qual that first CMP weekend but ran 1:54s during the race then. The conditions may have indeed been worse than the first CMP race but H3 was way slower this year as compared to H2. Last year the fastest H3 car was about 1 second slower than the fastest H2 car in all four races.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Something to note as well, the HC guys had 20 other cars out there in qualifying last year vs. a much larger field of HC+SM+944Cup+Small Bore this year and I'd venture a guess that many guys weren't used to that (thinking that could throw off qualifying times). I am just suprised that Matt said times were 2 seconds slower this year as AI ran 3+ seconds faster than last year.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 12:02 AM
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I attended the saturday portion of the race. I now dream of evo 8s. Don't hate.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 03:49 AM
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Good stuff, still couldn't beat the damn tank.

On a side note, starting dead last in Small Bore was a TON of fun on Saturday. The race itself could have been better, though. (Tons of contact, multiple passes under yellow.)

All in all, that was probably the most fun I've had on track. The battle with Robert was great, as it reminded me a lot of the battle with Starnes at CMS last year.

Here's a poke...

How about H2 running 1st, 2nd, and 3rd overall (ECHC) on Sunday? Where's H1 at?

Jason-
who's still waiting for a race where Chad finishes ahead of him




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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:19 AM
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I didn't really think the track was slower, if not faster.. It was 100 degrees both times we went last year.. it was only about 75 at the most all weekend, which was great!! I thought the car would be slower on Toyos which are taller and about 5lbs heaver, and 50lbs of dead weight beside me.. But I am on different suspension, as well as a new cage, and I am a better driver. You can really pitch the car into the corners hard w/ Toyos, they just bark, asking for more
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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I would not use H3 as a gauge for your conclusion. Nothing at all against Karl and Phil
Oh I know I was slower. MPH out of the kink bears this out. Why? Dunno. Perhaps it was all the new chit on the car (tires, cage, lsd) and no event to get used to it all. Perhaps it was five months worth of cobwebs.

Edit: pulled out snide remark


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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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Edit: pulled out snide remark
Snide remarks and inside jokes are quite encouraged. Pulling is not allowed.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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I am just suprised that Matt said times were 2 seconds slower this year
Maybe it was the traffic, but I know Karl had several open laps both days during the race. The track had *just* dried out from a storm before the race Saturday. Weather was cooler for sure. Am I off in left field for thinking Hoosiers/Kumhos would prefer a warm sunny day over a cloudy, cool day? Seriously, I've never driven Hoosiers, but that certainly is the impression I get.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Good stuff, still couldn't beat the damn tank.

Here's a poke...

How about H2 running 1st, 2nd, and 3rd overall (ECHC) on Sunday? Where's H1 at?

Jason-
who's still waiting for a race where Chad finishes ahead of him




[Modified by Jason Franza, 7:49 AM 4/8/2003]

jason....chad here under dave's name.....

1'53 first lap
next 5 laps 1.52.047-1.52.74
then hit lap traffic.....drove in grass to get around slower cars.....then passed H1 leader because he broke.....I had the win why push my daily driver anymore.....we'll see if you even see me at the expo!!!!!! only time you'll see me is when i'm lapping you and i'm in the rear view!!!!!

seriously....when i had the win i backed off....why not....and did i not give you and robert the point??? and lifted for you? i do have video of me doing that....no reason to hold the battle between you and robert up....and yes after i knew i had h1 i backed way off....wouldn't you? there are no points in overall posistion!!!

where were you in qualifying on saturday??

i think i took poll in a car i only had 10 laps in.....in the rain!!!!!
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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Chad-

Just take the owning. It's all in good fun

BTW, just stating the facts, dude

Oh, and I do thank you for the point on Sunday. It made it easier to get to Adam.


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