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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 04:43 AM
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Default H22 Hatch tranny got suddenly noisy- call for alarm?

Hey guys, I just noticed a slight 'gear meshing sound'. It's not a grind, just a noisy gear sound I guess. I have a leaky axle, which drops about 3 drops a day, but I refill the fluid as necessary.. I refilled it the ohter night, and it was still making the noise. It's not as noisy as my old Eclipse GST tranny, but it's still noisier than before.. It shifts like buttuh and there is no grind except the standard 5th gear grind. Is this normal? I'm REAL paranoid about new sounds in my baby.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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What is your axle/shaft/mount setup again? And are you sure the noise is coming from the tranny. When my distro failed it sounded like it was coming from the tranny as well but it was indeed the distro's bearings that were going.. And if you are leaking fluid that is diffently not a good thing since trannies are very tempermental and continuously adding fluid like that over time can mess thing up..
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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well, it's not the most ideal setup... But.. I have HCP mounts, Accord int. shaft, and '90 teg driver side axle and '89 teg pass axle. You guessed it.. the 89 one is doing the leaking. Can't figure out how to make it not leak. It's like it doesn't want to clip in. I'd LOVE to fix it the right way.
No, I'm not sure it's not from the tranny. I just got some GSR rims which happened to have snows on them.. For all I know, it could just be roadnoise from the snows, but it's not nearly as loud when I'm coasting (read:in neutral or clutch in) Thanks, Jason! How's the Type S runnin? Wanna sell some cams?
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Hmmn could be that the axle just isnt seated properly. Maybe you just need to adjust the lock pin some more.. But it does sound to me like you axle rod might be a tad too short.. If I remember correctly you used the older teg one to get rid of vibrations.. But I would try to maybe raise up the rear mount like someone on here mention before with a 1/2 inch shim and put back in the longer axle.. I dunno.. I think that the HCP mountkit after some careful reviewing could have been designed a little better and might be off my a little bit..

And yeah car is disabled for now till we try to setback the timing correctly hopefully this weekend.. But I am not selling my cams anytime soon.. I would however have some lovely stock Type S cam gears for sale if you are interested..

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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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EK22tim, take the 89 axle out and enlarge the snap ring so that it clips into the tranny, you need to do this or else it will ALWAYS leak even if you put a new seal. I had this on my 89 axle. when you put the axle in hit the entire assembly with a hammer into the trans, that should take care of that problem it worked for me.

BTW..... I also have that noise, it sounds like the tranny were in reverse. I like to think of it as SC noise. HTH.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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Hey cool, I will try that!! So, the snap ring's not expanded enough? Yeah, even if I jam it in as hard as I can it won't stay so I will try this. Cool, thanks guys. Yeah Jason that's the reason.. Had bindage there for a while with that 90 axle. Car's been REAL nice lately. I love it! Hey, what will you sell your Type S cams for?? And how much Hp would they be worth on a stock H22a? Thx bro!!!!
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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ahh! I'm having this EXACT problem. Drips very slowly and the damn passenger side axle inner CV joint won't quite go in.

Except I'm running HASport mounts and DSS stage 1 axles.

fastwanabe, where'd u get the ring from? I'm gonna try tomorrow and try and push that damn thing in, other than that, it's not clipped in and leaks tranny luid

Maybe I should try hammering the damn axle in because the inner CV joint has about 3/4" play.

BTW, my tranny makes the winding noise as well. And as for the 5th gear grind, maybe it's because I have HASports, but my tranny has never grinded and I can shift into any gear as fast as possible with no grind still




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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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So basically what you're saying Brandon is that the DSS axles ARE the right length and you just don't have them all the way in?

make the snap ring larger by spreading it out some, and then put it back together..if it still won't go all the way in, put a block of wood against the end of the axle and hold it as straight as possible and then give it a good bang with a hammer..should pop right in.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 06:31 PM
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LOL, that pissed me off. I was putting fluid in the tranny and found that very little came out.

Guess I'll have to take out the little bastard and lock her in
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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my friends car was leaking trans fluid and that what we did,just spread that ring out a little. no more leak.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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saved my day, thanks man
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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Well did it work.. ??

And EK I was selling my stock cam gears if anyone wants them.. Dem cams o mine aint going nowhere but staying where they live now!!
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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So basically what you're saying Brandon is that the DSS axles ARE the right length and you just don't have them all the way in?

make the snap ring larger by spreading it out some, and then put it back together..if it still won't go all the way in, put a block of wood against the end of the axle and hold it as straight as possible and then give it a good bang with a hammer..should pop right in.
exactly, just spread the ring a little but make sure its not big enough for it to fall off the axle so dont go crazy when spreading it.!!
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 04:41 AM
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Ok with all you H22 guys that have a 5th gear grind. And if your tranny is not leaking to much. There is a fluid change that i used in my 5th Gen lude that work GREAT!
I went to my local GM dealer and bought there GM SyncroMesh. It is Gear oil. It is $9 per quart. Very nice stuff!! When i put it in there was a immeadate change in the shifting with the car and after arround 300-500 miles the grind was GONE!! i can not make it grind anymore!!! I have been running it for arround.... 40,000 miles. It is time to change again... And still no grind. Give it a shot what do you have to loose?

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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 05:09 AM
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Just make sure for those of you that have LSD to make sure the tranny oil you use is "geared" (no pun intended) for LSD trannies..
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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Aah good call Jason. Well, I haven't tried the trick yet, and probably won't get a chance to until after wed. We'll see then. Ooooh cam GEARS. I have a set fo those already!! (stockers, anyways) I'm looking for CAMS. Anyone got any other gofast mods they recommend for the H22 hatchy, while you're all here?
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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Mods suggested that I have known to work are:

Intake
Exhaust
Headers with either bigger primaries or collector than stock JDM
LSD stock or otherwise
VAFC
Fuel Pressure regulator
Walbro 255 high flow pump
Cam Gears (Not really necessary unless you have aftermarket cams and you want to fine tune)
Clutch and/or Lightened Flywheel
MSD Ignition

Anything after that would be for either extreme NA or Forced Induction.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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Intake: Check (hot air but good for the top end)
Exhaust: Check... Could use a little bigger but there is no cat and a straight thru on there.
HEADER! Yea but the only ones that make any real power are mugen and of the sorts and they are crazy $$
LSD : Check Stock
VAFC: saving/shopping
FPR: working on getting.
Pump: check
Cam Gears: like you said not needed... (for the current app)
Clutch Flywheel.... Well over rated... (unless slipping)
Ignation... Would be nice to have so that he can up the N20!

So got a few of the biggies taken care of!
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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Yeap its all about taking your time and doing what you can with the money available.. I was just lucky enough to have done most of the stuff during my first swap so carrying it over made it not that bad..

And damn definately get a FPR cause with the Walbro you static Fuel pressure if probably somewhere in the 50psi range now.. What worked for me was setting it at around 36-38psi.. But again that is unverified on a dyno..
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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Mods I have

Intake{ITR aem)
Exhaust{custom 2.5 inch SS & magnaflow oval)

Mods I want

header{imagengineering)
intake{skunk2)
LSD
big bore TB{Ericks racing or Holly)
cams{Crower or Skunk2)
VAFC
lots of Dyno time.
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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Nice.. Yeah, I have some/most of the biggies.. I have a freer flowing intake tube and 2.25" DP back with no cat and a dynomax muffler.. More stealth looking. I have a factory LSD, which i LOVE, and am looking for more ooomph.
Oh, Jason, I didn't install the Walbro yet for that very reason, I'm waiting for a FPR before I do that.
Cool, so I'm shopping for a VAFC next and some cams, and an ITR AEM CAI. (woah..) after that, who knows??
FastWanabe, sounds like you're headed down about the same path as me! Anyone know how many hp the TypeS cams give on a non-type S motor? Jason?
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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Probably not worth it because remember is a combination of cams, factory port polish, pistons, etc... that gives the Type S that extra 20 horses.. With aftermarket cams you can get that amount from just the cams alone.. That would be your best bet..
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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True. I'm actually working on getting Type S cams and a Walbro 255 within 2 days. Just looking to come across a deal on some. Guess I'll have to jump on the cams and let everyone know
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Old Apr 6, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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Cool.. Great info guys. Yeah, Jason, that's all true.. Don't the Type S's have higher compression too, to help?
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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Yeah it gets its higher compression from the pistons..
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