I have 2.25 piping already and i wanted a new muffler..
ES Oval
or
ITR

 

itr

 

more opinions?

 

I say es oval. It is straight through and quiet. You can paint it flat black if you want to make it get less attention.

 

I agree, and that's what I would choose, if I had to pick between those two.

 

es...i have the itr because i bought the whole itr cat back. I think my ITR is just a stock muffler with a tiny bit less restriction. if yuo want performance, get the es, if not itr is good.

 

Es

 

es oval

 

Ok, I'm a noob.....what's the Es oval? I mean, who makes it? I know what the ITR is.


[Modified by steadyeddy, 5:40 PM 4/3/2003]

 

I vote for ES also.


[Modified by jonsteR, 9:47 AM 4/3/2003]

 

ES all the way for performance

 

I recently replaced my Apexi N1 muffler for an ITR rear section. Power loss up top is noticeable but on the track it only slowed me down by a tenth. Not too bad of a loss for stock sound and feel.

 

ES it is ....thanks..

 

by the way...anyone have pics of the es on a DC? And is it quiet or loud?

 

bump

 

bump....by the way...anyone have pics of the es on a DC? And is it quiet or loud?

 

buy my ITR exhaust, im me for more details

 

I really wouldn't say ES is quiet, and the reason that it draws less attention becoz it's look like crap (with no tip at all). I would go with ITR. I had ES and I switched to WS. Driving on the highway with ES is a absolute torture; You may give up a couple HP with ITR, but the quietness is priceless to me.


Sorry guys, I am venting about the ES becoz I believe the "ES sleeper hype", and it's the biggest disappointment.

 

well i heard them with itr, gredddy b pipes, so those were quiet.

 

get es oval you get a good sound with kind of a stock look

 

I would go ES. A stock muffler is a stock muffler. This is a great place for auto manufactures to increase there profit margin by using less expensive parts. Also stock mufflers are heavy. I don't know the weight of the ES but I saved 22 lbs by switching to a Thermal Axle-back. That is a bonus in itself.

 

id say roll the es..that **** is hot... super duper sleeper mode!!! my boy has the es on his hb w/ gsr swap into it... that **** is phat... the es is extremely quiet at idle and sounds aggresive when ur on it..its perfect, ITR is fairly queit too but like others have said, it's more showy, go for that sleeper look!

 

would getting a tip welded on the es change the sound or performance..like weld an itr tip on it...

 

you could not have picked two mufflers that were more different.

-ES: free flowing, LOUD
-ITR: chambered (doesnt flow well at all), QUIET

buy whatever you want. just do some research first before comparing apples to oranges.

 

If you aren't making that much power it won't effect your performance on the track that much. I'm click'n off practically the same quarter mile times when I had my Apexi N1 and when I used the ITR axle back.