they are both 300 treadwear and both A for traction...
which is better? nitto 450 or toyo fz4??? and why???

 

I don't know anything about the Toyos, but I've heard bad things about the Nittos. Like bubbles in peoples sidewalls and things like that.

 

I second that. The traction on the Nittos isn't very good, either. I think the Kumho 712 is probably better than both for the price.

 

I had the toyo's myself....decent tire for the price....but if your car is lowered and you have a camber problem dont bother getting those tires....they will lose tread very fast like that only cause there soft tires

 

I ask for only these two tires, because in the wheel & tire package i can only upgrade to these... PLUS, I WANT ALL SEASON... the kumho 712 are good, but they are only summer tires...

 

If Those are your choices, I'd go with the fz4. Heard too much negativity about Nitto 450's.

 

I don't know much about the Nitto's, but I can tell you this about the FZ4's- 1. They are affordable. 2. All around performance is good, and they start to break right after they squeal - very predictable. 3. Wet/snow is terrible. Especially when they start to wear.

Next time I'm going with T1S's - I've had 2 sets of FZ4's and they were good, but the T1S is a much nicer tire (and way more expensive)

So, if you're on a budget, these are good tires, but "you get what you pay for".

 

ive already had 2 nitto 450s bust on me...one after 1 day of driving...now granted the tire ship let me drive with a small leak in the stem...but 1 day...common...however when they are all in workin order i havent had problems with them...and the first set of 4 i got i drove on for 2 years before any problems...and they still have great traction on them...so ?

 

Personally I had the FZ4 and I think they sucked, seem to squeal everywhere and traction wasn't the greatest Rolling on Kuhmo 712's now, and I think they are better. The FZ4 came on the car when I bought it.

 

Toyo, those Nitto's are trouble.

 

anythings better then the NT 450's

 

fz4 is CRAP

 

No experience wit the Toyo's but I do have the Nitto 405's, would not recommend them. They are probably just as bad, if not worse than the stock Michelins.

I'd recommend the Kumho 712 as an alternative to these two.

 

Nittos suck,no wet traction,not that good dry traction either,and not very durable.
The only good thing about them is there cheap and look good,besides that they suck.

 

Both tires suck, they're both TREADWEAR 300, what do you expect?

 

I don't know where you live, but if you live in an area with serious snow fall dedicated snow tires are worth every penny. The amount of control they give in snow is unmatched by any all-season tire.

 

nitto 450 nitto 555 extreme drag 450 is CRAP thats all I know

 

do NOT under any circumstance get toyo FZ4's.

you will regret every penny you spent on them.........absolutely horrible in all types of road conditions......

you want a good cheap sticky tire? Dunlop SP Sport FM901's a million times better than FZ4's.

 

I'm sure you can upgrade to other brands for more $$$, which we are all telling you that you should do. The reason those two tires are in the wheel & tire package you are probably looking at is because they suck *** and are super cheap (in quality and price)! You should call the shop and ask what else you can get as part of a package.

 

Whatever, the kumhos will be a better all weather tire than both your choices. I would also recommend spending the extra to get kumhos. They are extremely cheap, and if the Toyos are as bad as everyone is saying, i'd shell out the extra bucks for the kumhos. They can't be too much more expensive than the ones they are trying to give you already.

 

fz4's last forever. thats about it.

 

Er, no disrespect, but I don't put much stock in a Californian's opinion on "all-season" tires. The 712s have large, stiff tread blocks that will fill with snow if there's more than an inch or two on the ground.

 

Fz4 for sure....450 last a lifetime tho...

 

the fz4's suck , they are low grade crap , i have em now , but only because i needed tires that day. treadwaer is good, but they suck for traction , esp with power

 

That is true, I've never been through the snow with the tires, but they do hold up well in the rain. That's been proven and stated by many people.